best place for part worn tyres

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Rob
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

Post by Rob »

Nobody in their right mind would bother buying tyres with 3mm or less tread.

I agree that tyres should be matched too.

By choice I would definitely buy new, but sometimes we can't always afford £400 for a set of tyres.
planted1
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

Post by planted1 »

Mate had a visit from trading standards regarding part worn tyres,
he was quite insistant citing the regs .
The part worn must pass various inflation and tread inspection prior to sale.
Perhaps more importantly,they must be clearlyand permanently marked as
"part worn"in letters at least 4mm high.
Insurance assesors love part worns he said.
Save for matched,speed rated,quality tyres,as your tyre footprint is all that stands between you and eternity.
kevin millar 1977
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part worn tyres

Post by kevin millar 1977 »

Writing on my new supra rims read as follows 17x8 50jj on fronts and 17x9.5 50jj if that makes sense anybody. So what tyres to fit on them to fit on my Mr2 without any issues ???cheers
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

Post by Peter Gidden »

OP has PM'ed me. I've given him my answer, but am posting so other forum members can give their opinions too.

ET on all wheels he has bought are 50.

So just to clarify, he has:

17x8 ET50 and 17x9.5 ET50. (Standard Supra offsets)

I think he'll have problems.

Coilovers, hubcentric spacers and arch rolling as a minimum. :?
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

Post by craig »

Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:OP has PM'ed me. I've given him my answer, but am posting so other forum members can give their opinions too.

ET on all wheels he has bought are 50.

So just to clarify, he has:

17x8 ET50 and 7x9.5 50.

I think he'll have problems. :?


From MR2 calc site (based on rev2+ wheels)

MR2 (mkii) Flushness:
Your proposed front wheel will be 14.65 mm tucked in from flush
(flush offset: 35.35).
Your proposed front is 9.35 mm into the suspension!
Your proposed rear wheel will be 8.3 mm tucked in from flush (flush offset: 41.7).


Based on 215/40/17 front, and 255/40/17 rear, you'd be into spacers (hubcentric, and arch work)
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

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BTW, hubcetric spacers around £100 per pair. :shock:
Race Idiot
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

Post by Race Idiot »

Supra wheels seem like they arent worth the effort fitting imo, bad offsets and not particularly light either.

Also I guess they dont cost much but then adding up the price for proper spacers and rolled arches etc it might have been easier to buy some wheels with the correct offsets/widths.

I guess its good if your realy into an oem+ look I guess?
kevin millar 1977
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Post by kevin millar 1977 »

I am keen on the supra wheels look on the mr2 thinking of getting tyres stretched on the rims too if that would make a difference to it over all with the fitment of them to be honest. My mr2 is in stock shocks with stiffened springs at the moment too before I try to fit these supra wheels
kevin millar 1977
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part worn tyres

Post by kevin millar 1977 »

my mr2 is running on 18in rims at the moment too with rubber bands for tyres which I just cant be doing with now cheers
craig
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

Post by craig »

Stretched tyres would look even worse, and not recommended. It's the width/offset of the wheels that is already a problem. The correct tyre sizes for the wheels will make the problem worse.

Stock offset for a MK2 is +45, the Supra wheels are already 5mm further in than the stock offset, coupled with the fact that they're 2.5" wider at the back, and 2" wider at the front.

Spacers/arch work would be required.
Race Idiot
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

Post by Race Idiot »

Wouldnt he still contact the strut even with stretched tyres?

Tbh mate it might be easier to sell the supra wheels and see if anyone here is selling some stock 15s with tyres.
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

Post by KarlBristol »

If you can't justify the cost of new tyres which can be life saving I don't expect that you'd be able to justify £100+ on hubcentric spacers and then even more on arch rolling just to even fit the alloys.

As already mentioned to fit these you WILL need arch work and spacers. You may also need to fit coilovers and ditch your current suspension. Be under no illusions - this isn't a cheap or quick alloy wheel switch.

Even if you do spend all that money the end result is non OEM fitting alloys that aren't designed for the mr2 setup and may effect your handling adversely. IMHO it's simply not worth either the cost, effort or potential risk to your handling.

Best bet - sell the alloys and spend the money on a set that fit properly. The money that you would have to spend on the modifications to fit the set you've currently got could then be used on decent rubber :thumleft:
Selling up my highly modified and restored Rev 1 V6 3.0 1MZ-FE VVTi

http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=176156
Race Idiot
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

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These threads are pretty good on what needs to be done to fit supra wheels and what tyres fit etc.

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=4 ... ight=supra
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=3 ... ight=supra
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=3 ... ight=supra

Pretty much all of them involve spacers and arch rolling

I wouldve found some links on imoc but the search facility here is completely useless
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Re: best place for part worn tyres

Post by synXero »

Kevin, you've had some good but no doubt disheartening advice here. I would suggest you sell up and get another set.

However.

You could phone up stainless creations in Falkirk. One of the blokes there, Graydon, has fitted supra alloys to his track car. Google them and phone up, and politely ask for some advice! I know he uses spacers on them.

Or, sell the supra alloys and buy a set of alloys you like that will fit a bit better.
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