[Mk2] [Turbo] Mr2 Turbo Emmisions UPDATED** useful for all members

[Cwill83247]

I have a 1994 rev turbo and failed MOT on readings below.

I have read other posts - before i question the MOT guy need to check.

Should the emissions be checked at all ??????? on my car as import 1994 and turbo (on emissions paperwork they are showing 3S-FE)

if it is to be checked people have stated figures of 3.5% instead of my test 0.3 and 0.5 can anyone confirm

Thanks !!!!!!!!

my figures.........

Co emmisions maximimum is 0.3 % fast idle and natural idle max is 0.5%

mine were fast idle - 0.69%
natural idle 0.58%

[3S Service Centre]

Non cat rules should apply so they shouldnt be doing a fast idle test. They should be looking for a lamda reading of 1.00 and the job is finished.
James

[Martin F]

Non cat rules should apply so they shouldnt be doing a fast idle test. They should be looking for a lamda reading of 1.00 and the job is finished.
James

agree, looks like they have just put your car through as an uk n/a....

[Cwill83247]

so if they do a non-cat test does that mean they don't check co emissions ??

[3S Service Centre]

Yes they will check a few readings which includes co. Burnt fuel and unburnt fuel are checked. But if you have a lambda reading on 1.00 the other will fall into place.
James

[BenF]

If when you ask them to do a non-cat test (if your car is pre July '95) ask them to ring the VOSA MOT helpline to confirm what you're telling them.

Very few cars on the roads in the UK would use this loophole and they're probably not familiar with it.

[Hellboy]

I thought any car after 1992 J/K plate had to have Cat test regardless of import or not?

[raptor95GTS]

I thought any car after 1992 J/K plate had to have Cat test regardless of import or not?

if the chassis / engine code don't match the handbook then M plate or older have the non cat test

[Cwill83247]

Hi all - thought i'd let you all know and this info is current and from my experiences.

You've seen the above info with the Emissions saga - mines a 1994 turbo.
lower down is also a bit of info about Number plate failure....

VOSA
I spoke to VOSA yesterday they told me if no exact engine code, make and model is found and it falls between the relevant years for an import upto 1995
Then the garage should carry out a NON-Cat test
CO <=3.5%
HC<=1200PPM

Luckily my garage took this advice and carried out that test and he kindly photcopied info from his Mot Manual which may be of use and safe alot of hassle.

extract from "The M.O.T Inspection Manual"

Section 7.3
Personal Imports: The vehicle will be tested according to it's age from first use. The only exemption to this is if the vehicle owner can present to the tester at the time of test a letter from the vehicle manufacturer stating that the particular engine as originally installed could not meet the equivelant British Emmisions standards. If this is the case then test to the next lower emmision standard....... etc... etc... which basically means with a letter you's get the Non-Cat test

Useful if you have a really difficult MOT tester... I have to say mine was really good.

Hope this helps - I also had issue with my number plates letters to thin
however went and got some new ones from a proper spares place and exactly the same letter width - they told me this was standard and as set by VOSA. it's all computerised.

Hope this makes and is useful....

[BenF]

I thought any car after 1992 J/K plate had to have Cat test regardless of import or not?

If it is a turbo, there isn't a directly equivalent UK model so it gets a non-cat test.

[spannerman]

At my last MOT it failed before the emissions test due to the tester observing there was no CAT.

He says "regardless of emissions, any car post 1992 needs to have a CAT present".


Consiquently, I went home fitted CAT and got MOT cert.

Pain in the Butt tho.

[raptor95GTS]

At my last MOT it failed before the emissions test due to the tester observing there was no CAT.

He says "regardless of emissions, any car post 1992 needs to have a CAT present".


Consiquently, I went home fitted CAT and got MOT cert.

Pain in the Butt tho.

i usually say at this point, so you want to argue and risk losing the MOT licence or will you allow me to walk you through YOUR guide how to do YOUR job. Ends the discussion there and then = MOT pass

[RyanRs]

At my last MOT it failed before the emissions test due to the tester observing there was no CAT.

He says "regardless of emissions, any car post 1992 needs to have a CAT present".


Consiquently, I went home fitted CAT and got MOT cert.

Pain in the Butt tho.

you should have told him 'its an emisions test, NOT a cat test! -now go ring vosa!'

[BenF]

At my last MOT it failed before the emissions test due to the tester observing there was no CAT.

He says "regardless of emissions, any car post 1992 needs to have a CAT present".

Not for Turbos. When I've had a MOT test booked up for the MK2, I went down in advance to have a chat to them and explain the situation about non-cat tests for imports that don't have an equivalent UK model, complete with diagrams from the MOT manual.

Always went smoothly then

[turbokev]

How the bloody hell can you get a letter from the manufacturer stating that it won't meet UK emissions etc???
Surely the rule should be as said previously that if a car has no UK equivalent then they have no emissions figures for that car at that age so cannot test it.
Don't they have to refer to VOSA charts to see the specific emissions allowed for each car/engine combination so therefore meaning a tubby is exempt as they won't have these figures,and would have to apply pre-cat rules.

[Ed]

THat's the good thing with the new electronic MOT records. Once your car has been entered onto the system then as long as it was entered correctly it will show up on any MOT test station as a Turbo with a non cat emissions test to be done.