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Before
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After
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The 3s engine
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/ ... 1172855968
My frunk
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http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/ ... 1172856121

Hid and clear lens swap
Before
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Windows tinted
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Lazy eye kit fitted
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Right,first time woodsy ever built one of these so could get interesting.

Here is my car....

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And here is most of the engine dismantled/disconnected...bloody camera ran out at this stage so unable to show you the subframe off and the engine getting lowered to the floor.

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The plan here is to run a hybrid ct26 at low boost pressure on the stock ecu until an ecu becomes available,then we can wind things up a bit,but not too far after all we are on still on stock internals.
pics of the engine out,nothing too spectacular happening at the mo...

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Mock up,a possible location for it the turbo

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This would mean chopping the boot panel about or even removing a section of it,but it does give more room to locate stuff,also you can see the AFM and air filter would be sitting in the right side boot corner,so a possible vent or scoop could be added to the bodywork here for cold induction air.

This set up also gives plenty of room for the intercooler above the gearbox....time will tell!(yes its a mk1)
A Fidanza aluminum flywheel(9lbs)
Aluminum flywheels have been used for many years for increasing performance. From the earliest days of racing and street build-ups, the world's best engine builders have been installing aluminum flywheels to give their engines the needed edge. Not only will you see a dramatic increase in usable horsepower, but engine life can also be extended since there will be less stress on the crankshaft. To achieve the greatest increase in performance an aluminum flywheel must lower the moment of inertia characteristics of the engine. Put in simpler terms, we must reduce the amount of horsepower needed to turn the flywheel so that horsepower can be used to turn the wheels. The flywheel itself is made from either 6061 T6 or 2024 T3 aluminum depending on the model. Both of these materials are tempered aluminum which are very, very strong yet very lightweight
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RPS Performance Turbo sport series clutch stage 2-Torque cap:390 pressure increase+15%

Turboclutch Sport Series clutches offer unmatched value. These clutches are packed with features found in other higher priced units, yet sell for much less. Sport pressure plates have 150 to 200 pounds of extra clamping force to hold the power of your mild upgrades. These upgrades include better exhaust, better intake, cams, chips, and boost controllers.
Sport Series clutch kits are available with both street discs and RPS’s unique sprung hub 6-puck disc. These discs use progressive springs for smoother engagement and inflect much less stress on the transmission than solid hub discs.
“European” style puck material is used exclusively for better drivability and longer life. RPS also has created a special rivet and assembly procedure designed to extend the clutch’s life even more. If you are looking for a great value, this is your clutch!
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The V6.......
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And here it is pulled apart and degreased....

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Then the pistons were pulled out ,heres the internals on the bench...

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And the bottom end inspected....
ordered a brand new set of shell bearings for the bottom end on this engine,the old ones looked ok but i figured its not worth taking a chance while pauls got the bottom end apart.


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And the first step taken to turbo charge....paul removed the blanking plug from the oil filter housing,drilled a hole through it and welded a 90* fitting onto the end,they have pressure tested it and it works fine....from here they will pipe to the turbo oil feed.

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well the heads were sent off to CTM for porting out,valve job and reshim....the gearbox will be going to a specialist company on monday for a recon,its got a crunchy 2nd... and they are sending the CT26A hybrid off to I.T.S turbos as paul found a slight oil leak on it and we want this build to be perfect so the turbo will come back fully rebuilt.

This leaves paul with bu88er all to do until parts come back,but he did get the turbo oil return sorted today...

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This is a mk2 turbo oil return fitting,and its been welded into the sump at the highest point on the front of the engine so its above the oil level...very important when draining oil away from a turbo! if its sits below the oil level it can cause turbo failure.

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paul has also ordered 2m of braided high pressure oil feed line from these people www.speedflow.co.uk ,found by johnny... they were very helpful indeed and ship instantly.

So most of the parts are coming together,thats going to be the hold up now before we see further progress....then it will all come together at once
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Re: v6 turbo

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Out of interest - why Turbo instead of SC?
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Speedy wrote:Out of interest - why Turbo instead of SC?

You can control the boost more with a turbo and sc has been done over here(uk) and i wanted to try something different. I have purchased some forged pistons as well so we can up the boost a bit more.
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Sounds like an excellent project - I have to admit, I think the V6 is a more interesting platform to start with than the 3S - do you know how much the whole thing weighs?
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Speedy wrote:Sounds like an excellent project - I have to admit, I think the V6 is a more interesting platform to start with than the 3S - do you know how much the whole thing weighs?


Theres always difference of opinions when it comes to v6 and 3s but i dont want to turn this thread into a argument about which is better, i just wanted to try something different. As for how much it weighs hav'nt a clue :-k i will look in to that though.
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Ok i think the v6 weighs the same as a 3sGTE give or take a couple of kilos,so with the turbo it will be a tad heavier.
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What sort of power you expect to be hitting/ranning mate? thats gonna be fun to drive 8)
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whoozy wrote:Ok i think the v6 weighs the same as a 3sGTE give or take a couple of kilos,so with the turbo it will be a tad heavier.


Is there an iron block and an alloy block version of the v6 engine?
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Speedy wrote:
Is there an iron block and an alloy block version of the v6 engine?


I believe so.

It's all so tempting...
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michael wrote:
Speedy wrote:
Is there an iron block and an alloy block version of the v6 engine?


I believe so.

It's all so tempting...


lol :thumleft:

Whats the rev limit like I wonder..
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IronMike wrote:What sort of power you expect to be hitting/ranning mate? thats gonna be fun to drive 8)


Hoping to be around 400 bhp

In will proberbly rev to 7.5k depending on mods

Mines the iron block,its about 20kgs heavier than the 1mz alloy block but the iron block 3vz is a lot tougher and can take more boost than the alloy block.
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this looks like a cracking project and cant wait to see the end result...

well done for trying something new :thumleft:
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Agreed, cracking project.

Good to see somebody doing something different :thumleft:
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well i got the new shell bearings today,so after a quick bore rehone and 8 hours of very careful engine building we now have a v6 with its forgies fitted....

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hows that for a bit of bling,shame to bury that within the engine really
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paul thought id have a little play about with the turbo system.... this involves using an aftermarket actuator with its spring modified to give way at 2psi,this way we can control boost to the actuator electronically and have finer control over the max boost,which initially will be no more than 4 or 5 psi until the ecu and injectors are taken care of.

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here is the modified actuator position and arm....everything has had to be rotated into position,you are looking at the turbo as how it will actually be fitted,so the turbo body had to be orientated with the drain facing downwards and the compressor outlet facing upwards,this meant a custom bracket for the actuator was needed.It took a little time aligning everything but we got there!

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Here is the intake flange,AH-CNC did this one,cheers mate! we will weld the exhaust pipe onto this....

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And here is the exhaust exit side,paul has cut the flange off an old knackered downpipe he had,ipaul will be making a new downpipe from this flange...

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Re: v6 turbo

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Although red is not my colour I am liking this a lot. Its looking like it might be quite tasty car once the engine is complete

One question though how did you manage to put the front strut brace in the images below over the standard one?

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did you just bolt the aftermarket one on to of the standard one or was there some fettling involved ?

Regards
PaulM
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When putting the struts on i did'nt tighten the bolts up till they was all in and lined up.

Paul woods gets some lifts installed and my rear is stripped......
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having got the heads back from CTM...

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we got the engine built up to the fuel rails...

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Seems a shame to hide the forgies under all that !!

By the way torqued the heads up an extra 30* on each bolt on this build
whoozy

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Well today i got the cam covers and plenum painted...

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and fitted the covers to the engine...

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Also got the timing belt fitted...

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So by tomorrow we should have a pretty much built engine,just waiting for those flywheel and clutch parts
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cant wait to hear this thing fire up =P~
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