Is this true?- MR2 Turbo is quickest 4 cylinder car 0-60?

[buddster33]

Yeah, I guess 'mass produced' is the crucial factor in the claim.

How about......'the quickest (0-60mph), 4 cylinder, non-modified, mass produced, 2 wheel drive car in the world'! Phew .

[Lauren]

Yeah, I guess 'mass produced' is the crucial factor in the claim.

How about......'the quickest (0-60mph), 4 cylinder, non-modified, mass produced, 2 wheel drive car in the world'! Phew .

Well thats what i was going on originally. Still probably the esprit turbo SE with the chargecooler. 264bhp IIRC.

Mind you take into account handling and the Elan would no doubt be quicker point to point easily.

[senie]

Just to add. Would the mk1 SC have been the quickest 4 pot to 60 when that came out?

I think the original question should have been:

What was the fastest accellerating (sp) mid engined, 2 seater, rear wheel drive car when the mk2 tubby was released?

I dont think the mr2 turbo was really mass produced anyway. bear in mind it wasnt a world car.

RS article in evo-wow!

I think they even produced some Metro 6R4 for consumers. They were absurdly fast. But again, how many did they have to make for it to be mass produced???

[Lauren]

Just to add. Would the mk1 SC have been the quickest 4 pot to 60 when that came out?

I think the original question should have been:

What was the fastest accellerating (sp) mid engined, 2 seater, rear wheel drive car when the mk2 tubby was released?

I dont think the mr2 turbo was really mass produced anyway. bear in mind it wasnt a world car.

No not to 60mph, to 30mph.

You may as well say:

What was the fastest; 2 seater, mid-engined, 2 wheel drive, rear wheel drive, sports car, made by toyota in 1990.....

Would that give you the answer you were looking for?

Removing the toyota part from it it is still the esprit turbo SE... i'm afraid.

[senie]

Lauren's nailed it.

Hold on a sec. wasnt the mr2 made/designed by lotus anyway. that means they had the quickest 2 cars. (or was tha just the mk1?)

[Lauren]

Lauren's nailed it.

Hold on a sec. wasnt the mr2 made/designed by lotus anyway. that means they had the quickest 2 cars. (or was tha just the mk1?)

The MK2 had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with lotus.

the Mk1 only had some input on chassis tuning, ie they invited some guy from lotarse to drive it and comment on the handling.

[MegatronUK]

I think they even produced some Metro 6R4 for consumers. They were absurdly fast. But again, how many did they have to make for it to be mass produced???

Yep, they had to make at a run of at least 250 cars for road use in order to homologate the group B cars (S4, 6R4, RS200 etc).

You can still pick up the odd MG 6R4 in the specialist car industry, mind you, they run for around 20k-25k for a good one... though you can probably pick up used clubman spec one for 16-20. The full works spec 450+bhp cars tend to be a lot more, but do turn up from time to time. (btw. did you know that the quad cam 3l V6 in the Metro was used as the basis for the Jag XJ220? Albeit with twin turbochargers.)

I've been a fan of the car for a long time, even though it was flawed at the time, history has shown it to be a proven, solid and succesful car at national and clubman level (its gone through competition with Sierra Cosworths, then Escort Cossies, then the Scooby and Evo and is still winning events)....

... and it makes an abolutely awesome noise at full pelt!

I've promised myself that I will buy one when I can afford it.

[ryan]

I have read somewhere that the MR2 turbo was the fastest or most powerful production car to come out of Japan, in 1989 when the mk2 turbo was launched, though I cant remember where I read this

If you consider that production jap cars were limited to 280bhp (why?) until recently, then it may be true

[Gazboy]

iirc the Lotus Esprit turbo SE didn't come out until May 10th 1989, which hit 60 in 4.7s. Before that was the boggo Esprit which still hit 60 in 5.4s.

The S4s does it in 4.6s and came out in 1995.

The X180R and the Sport300's performance times aren't listed, but both are way quicker than the S4s and were out in 1991 for the X180 and 1993 for the 300.

563 SE's were made, and about 800 S4's and S4s's were made.

[Lauren]

iirc the Lotus Esprit turbo SE didn't come out until May 10th 1989, which hit 60 in 4.7s. Before that was the boggo Esprit which still hit 60 in 5.4s.

The S4s does it in 4.6s and came out in 1995.

The X180R and the Sport300's performance times aren't listed, but both are way quicker than the S4s and were out in 1991 for the X180 and 1993 for the 300.

563 SE's were made, and about 800 S4's and S4s's were made.

Ok, but the quicker esprit was still out before the tubby..

[stevecordiner]

How about the powerfullest car to leave japan in 1989/90.. perhaps the fastest ?

Not many around in the late 80s early 90's pumping out 220bhp !!

Supra turbo rings a bell in 89 kicking out 230 dd bhp ?

Evo 1 was 240bhp from factory I think. That was around 1990. Evo 2 was 250bhp in 1993ish and the RS version did 0-60 in around 4.9.

I think the answer to this thread is the MR2 turbo was the fastest 0-60 car mass produced in japan when it was first released.

The comment by someone that the MR2 turbo wasn't mass produced really ... lol ... they made about 100,000 of them Thats mass produced in my book!

[senie]

They sold that many turbos??? Where did you find that out? I always been curious how many tubbys were sold compared to n/a but never found any figures.

From Megaboost (little bit unsure about the owner of the website-he sounds dodgy to me!):

In japan, 109000 mk1 and mk2 's were sold. i would have thought more were n/a than tubby.
The american's didnt buy that many turbo's either i would expect, as it hasnt got a v8 under the bonnet, so it cant be a "proper" performance car.

[michael]

So we've concluded that the fastest 4 cyl car with an MR2 badge on was the MR2... I'd still take an RS200 Evolution with it's '86 madness from the factory, the Sierra dashboard would have to go though

[Porl\'\']

some of those cars are so awesome!! espeically the pug T16. I'd love one of those!! I loved my 205 GTi but having a mid-engined turbo-charged four wheel drive version would be better!

My next car after the mk1 is going to be a Lancia Delta HF Turbo Intergrale Evo 3 in either Red, black or yellow... actually, i wouldnt care what colour cus i think they are amazing! haha! Im still gutted that i missed out on a lovely black fixer upper of a HF Turbo a couple of years ago. *sobs*

Porl''

[michael]

some of those cars are so awesome!! espeically the pug T16. I'd love one of those!! I loved my 205 GTi but having a mid-engined turbo-charged four wheel drive version would be better!

There was one on eBay a week or two ago, £19,500 start price, absolutely mint road version.

[branny crashed turbo]

the stat i heard was that the rev 1 turbo was the fastest japanese production car upon release. (0-60)

i dont know...... thats what i was told.

i cant think of any in my limited knowledge that beat it.

[senie]

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