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Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm

an old face returns for a quick question?

Post by Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm »

hey people, now i sold my gold Mk1 about.... 2 to 3 years ago now! feels like ages! :( and sold my loved MR2 turbo last year after a driving ban.

been sorting my cash out lately and after the NIGHTMARE i been having owning a BMW 328 E36 coupe i'd love to have another MK1 MR2 again but one that's a little bit different!

i LOVED my old MR2 turbo as much as my AW11! i had a ride in a SC Mk1 once and really liked that!

ok so my question is how much is a good conditioned MK1 SC and whats the cost for putting a MK1 turbo together? including a car with decent bodywork and all the bits needed to carry out the conversion? other prob is getting someone to carry out such a project too as NO WAY could i do it myself! well i could but i wouldn't drive something i built hehe.

been reading some of the old MK1 posts and i miss mine now!

any guidence would be nice! the MK1 would be a second car cos i couldn't stand to see it rust away on our roads hehe!
hope a member or 2 remember me at least!
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Post by mr2mk1chick »

Hiya

Depending on the spec of sc you are after, you may find one from 2k (cheap) to 3.5K.
To really get the most out of an sc i would suggest fitting a big pulley such as the fensport one. It really makes a difference to power.
the cheaper sc's may be the auto boxes, perhaps expect to pay more for a manual with an LSD

The best place for q's re conversions would be the two brutal forum, but the main cost is obviously the engine. As this 1.5 thing is getting more popular, the price of a good tubby engine is rising. you may expect to pay 1K at a guess, depends on mileage etc of the engine.
As for getting someone to do the conversion for you - the Paul Woods is your man, but again - go to two brutal if you are seriously considereing going that route.

HTH

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Post by Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm »

cheers! met paul once at JAE last year bout doubt he remembers as he gets so many people after him!

cheers for the pointers people! seriously considering a MK1 turbo as a second car! be 2 of my fave cars in one! :mrgreen:
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Crash damaged turbo's go for between £500 and a £1000, but you can at least break the car and get some of that back if not make a profit if you're really canny. You'd need to ask Paul what he charges but I think it's in the region of £1500-£2000.

Remember to factor in costs of a new suspension and brakes coz your gonna need em!
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Chris 'aka rustboy' Ammon wrote:hey people, now i sold my gold Mk1 about.... 2 to 3 years ago now! feels like ages! :( and sold my loved MR2 turbo last year after a driving ban.

been sorting my cash out lately and after the NIGHTMARE i been having owning a BMW 328 E36 coupe i'd love to have another MK1 MR2 again but one that's a little bit different!

i LOVED my old MR2 turbo as much as my AW11! i had a ride in a SC Mk1 once and really liked that!

ok so my question is how much is a good conditioned MK1 SC and whats the cost for putting a MK1 turbo together? including a car with decent bodywork and all the bits needed to carry out the conversion? other prob is getting someone to carry out such a project too as NO WAY could i do it myself! well i could but i wouldn't drive something i built hehe.

been reading some of the old MK1 posts and i miss mine now!

any guidence would be nice! the MK1 would be a second car cos i couldn't stand to see it rust away on our roads hehe!
hope a member or 2 remember me at least!


Hi Chris
I'm glad to see your back,have'nt heard from you for ages.
A good condition sc could set you back ,between 2.5 and 6 grand.
Not sure how much the 1.5 project would cost.

I'm sure it was Pete Mason that took you out in mine,hopefully you have good memories of it.
Sc's are very difficult to come by and are generally holding there money very well!
The 6 grand one,was imported,there seems to be so few left in Japan that people have to pay a fortune to get it over here.
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Post by waynestoyotamr2 »

I sold one for £1900 a few months back, but needed tidying.

Expect to pay around £4000 for an absolutely split mint, manual gearbox, t-bar........
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Post by Tony jinxy froude »

Hey... Rustboy spammon, howz it going mate ! not heard from you for ages, thought you were in Broadmoore :mrgreen: :mrgreen: , i wondered how long it would be before that licence endorser of yours got sold, should have stuck with the MK1 like we told you :mrgreen: :mrgreen: , well glad to have you back on board, get another MK1.. you know it makes sense....... besides the Essex police force need something to do now that the Turbo has been sold !! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: , catch up with you soon, cheers, Jinxy
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cheers for all the replies! have to say i have missed IMOC and its members! i can see why so many ex MR2 owners carry on hanging about here!

depending on cash i reckon i will probably go for a MK1 for sure but a turbo conversion or a nice SC hmmm i can't decide but i got lots of time to do that! i just wanted a rough idea on cost really!

anyone know what people do bout MK1.5 insurance? do they count for kit car insurance?


oh and thanks for the kind words jinxy i'm sure other members missed me and my spamming too :mrgreen:
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Post by craig »

Welcome back fella! Knew you'd see sense eventually!

MK1 Turbo, there ya go!! =D> =P~ =P~ 8)
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Chris 'aka rustboy' Ammon wrote:
oh and thanks for the kind words jinxy i'm sure other members missed me and my spamming too :mrgreen:

Yep Chris, the lack of spamming had been noticed since youve been gone :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: =D> , good to have you back mate, hope to see you at the halfway house soon maybe..... in a mk1 8-[ , cheers, Jinxy
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Chris 'aka rustboy' Ammon wrote:
anyone know what people do bout MK1.5 insurance? do they count for kit car insurance?


my v6 mk1 cost an extra £70 on top of the normal premium ! thats with all the mods declared, some of the turbo guys are saying around the £150 mark but that obviously depends on you driving record!!!! :wink: you can get it sva'd to change it to a kit car but seems a lot of work just to get a slightly lower premium.
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Tony jinxy froude wrote:
Chris 'aka rustboy' Ammon wrote:
oh and thanks for the kind words jinxy i'm sure other members missed me and my spamming too :mrgreen:

Yep Chris, the lack of spamming had been noticed since youve been gone :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: =D> , good to have you back mate, hope to see you at the halfway house soon maybe..... in a mk1 8-[ , cheers, Jinxy


everyone still doing the halfway house thing! give us a buzz on here when your all down there next! :mrgreen:
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Post by Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm »

sorry to bump this back up but saw a few post on supercharger conversions. any info on these and what parts need upgrading? :mrgreen:
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Chris 'aka rustboy' Ammon wrote:sorry to bump this back up but saw a few post on supercharger conversions. any info on these and what parts need upgrading? :mrgreen:


All you need is the supercharger engine, ecu and obviously all ancillaries including preferably the IC too.

Costs would just be the matter of buying the engine anything from £700-1450, providing you DIY of course.
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Post by Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm »

interesting! cheers lauren!

so the brakes on both the NA and SC were the same was they? interesting to know also! i hated the brakes on my MK1a! dangerous and to easily cooked when pressing on!

any good brake upgrades? i'm tempted to go NA and spend some cash getting it neat and tidy then maybe a SC conversion later hmmm
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Post by Carlos »

Chris, I'm picking up new Blue Print front discs and pads tomorrow to put on the car, and will change the fluid for ya too. With the new rear calipers (and cables) the brakes should be in pretty good nick :)

Of course, the fronts are slightly bigger than your/my mk1a too which will help a bit!
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Post by Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm »

Carlos wrote:Chris, I'm picking up new Blue Print front discs and pads tomorrow to put on the car, and will change the fluid for ya too. With the new rear calipers (and cables) the brakes should be in pretty good nick :)

Of course, the fronts are slightly bigger than your/my mk1a too which will help a bit!



hehe forget you lurk here! D'oh hope the girlfriend don't mind me talking bout changing the cars heart haha! :mrgreen:

oh cheque on the way tomorrow mate so should be with you soon! can't wait to be back with a MK1!!! \:D/
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Post by Carlos »

Heh, she's just happy it's going to someone that'll look after it! By the time you get it it's gonna be in the best condition it's been in for ages - expect a few tears when she waves good bye!!!
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Post by PW@Woodsport »

hi chris,good to hear from you again mate,i remember talking to you at JAE... regarding engine conversions the SC conversion is not in the same league as a mk1 turbo,they cost roughly the same but the £ per bhp ratio is much better with the turbo and of course the skys the limit when you want to increase power whereas the SC tops out in well modified form at well under stock 3s-gte power.

Ive driven more SC's and mk1 turbos than anyone else in the world and although i find the SC's are very quick cars they are lightyears behind a well sorted 1.5.Maybe you could blag a passenger ride with one of the TB members cars?

If you remember your tubbys power but also your mk1's handling,combine the two but add the equivalent of 80bhp more in the mk1T for weight difference (we worked this out one day,you'd need 80bhp more in a stock mk2 turbo to keep up with a stock mk1 turbo based on their weights),it really does give the best of both worlds and is becoming a very popular conversion.

If the SC is your bag i personally wouldnt convert a car,id rather buy an original SC but only in manual form,the automagic versions are woeful.

The labour cost of a 1.5 is £1500 plus parts and however cheaply you manage to pick up the tubby donor clip,most people are building 1.5's for under £3k.Of course theres good brake upgrades that match,the best one being the st185 twin pot conversion i discovered a few years ago,take one st185 caliper,unbolt your old caliper,bolt the new caliper up onto the stock late spec mk1 disc,job done....easy as that and this will upgrade your brakes enough to the same spec as a mk2T.

The best way is to do the research and think about converting the car yourself,sounds scary but with all the help there is these days on TB its not so daunting and it will save you £1500 in the long run :)

Lots for you to think about mate,sorry SC owners if you think im trashing your cars,im not,its just £ for £ the 1.5 is in a different league.Given the choice of a highly tuned sc at say 190bhp (this will cost significantly more to achieve than the conversion itself) and a mk1T thats capable of being tuned to well over 400bhp (for probably the same cost as it would take to get an SC to 190bhp).... no contest!

Sorry for being so opinionated today!

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