What is it about the '2'

[JUIC'IN]

The engine bay keeps your bird warm while you bend her over your boot.

[Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm]

The engine bay keeps your bird warm while you bend her over your boot.

errr thanks for that juc'in LOL

[Hellboy]

the supension on the EVO is still the same as 90% of road cars is it not, nothing special or anything , just alot of electronics and crap. No challange

Id count on my MR2 p1$$ing on you on a track anyday, and so would my Tiger Cat on a tight and twisty track (only got a old Ford Twin Cam ) Like I said it my first post, ON LUMPY B roads or tight A roads the EVO would win , As the Mr2 (mk2 anyway ) is not a A or B Road car.

Proper AWD Sports car with a Track setup is a GT-R Skyline. - They are track bread , gravel boy

[Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm]

the skyline GTR is very impressive on track! i have a few best motoring DVD's and the skyline with 280bhp can see off cars and keep up with some super cars with over 300bhp!

very impressive, i'd probably go for a skyline once bored of the MR2 in years to come, probably got for the GTS-T though as GTR insurance is mental!
failing that i'd go for an evo or failing that *sigh* a scoob hehe.
nothing wrong with MR2's, scoobs or evo's mind love them all in there own little way! just a shame scoobs are the new cossies round my way

[Aidy]

aidy the only reason your evo handles at all is due to all the electronics correcting all the things the car does wrong!

Oh yeah, keep the ill-informed clichés coming Maybe you could explain what electrics the car has and how it corrects things?

on track a late spec MR2 turbo and an evo of the same year i doubt there would be much if anything in it.

Nope. The EVO equiv of the MR2 is about the EVO III. Pretty similar in price but the EVO III again has better handling.

MR2 wins hands down on bird pulling power mind

Well I do note that your new forum is a lovely shade of pink....I'll say no more

[Aidy]

the supension on the EVO is still the same as 90% of road cars is it not, nothing special or anything , just alot of electronics and crap.

Nope. The only electrics are what operates the trick rear diff, and the suspension is top notch, as is the quick steering rack and feedback. Mahoosive brakes, better cooling etc etc.

Id count on my MR2 p1$$ing on you on a track anyday

Yeah, and as long as the only racing you actually do is on paper you'll never have the indignity of being proven wrong

Proper AWD Sports car with a Track setup is a GT-R Skyline. - They are track bread , gravel boy

The Skyline has 10 times the electrics that the EVO does and all of a sudden it's a proper car?? LOL!!!! BTW the TME EVO has a tarmac set-up.

[shafster]

personally i think evo's are very rapid in a straight line and around a track. their ayc works wonders around the twisties.

however, they are expensive to run mpgwise and with their tendency to warp brake discs.

at the end of the day even though i love the performance, i would never buy an evo because its looks are very average. sorry if that offends anyone, just my opinion.

[Hellboy]

aidy the only reason your evo handles at all is due to all the electronics correcting all the things the car does wrong!

Oh yeah, keep the ill-informed clichés coming Maybe you could explain what electrics the car has and how it corrects things?

on track a late spec MR2 turbo and an evo of the same year i doubt there would be much if anything in it.

Nope. The EVO equiv of the MR2 is about the EVO III. Pretty similar in price but the EVO III again has better handling.

MR2 wins hands down on bird pulling power mind

Well I do note that your new forum is a lovely shade of pink....I'll say no more

Active YAW control, intellegent torque splitters, TCS , SS

Who cares, theres a chap round my way with a EVO 5 , was out in my Renault 11 190bhp/200lbs/ft kept reacing me off the light down a 5 mile streatch of carrageway, at the end he had no clutch , pulled over and he asked me what was under there to keep up with him, hmmm 1940s tech 1.4 pushrod Carb fed motor and a £60 quid sachs Clutch, asked him how much a new clutch was on his £1200 fitted and he had fryed it playing with a £1000 Renault 11 Turbo -

[Aidy]

Active YAW control, intellegent torque splitters, TCS , SS

It has Active Yaw Control, not sure about intelligent torque splitters. Not sure what TCS is but if it is anything to do with traction control or stability you're wrong. Ditto no idea what SS is. The car has AYC and ABS and that's it. No traction control of any sort.

Who cares

You are saying the EVO is fast cos of all the electrics and that there is no challenge. I am merely exposing your poor understanding of the car to show that your opinions on it are not very accurate.

[Hellboy]

NO mate, what im saying is a EVO is a quick CAR , junk the elecronics and all that jazz, and you would need to be a very skilled driver to drive it the same as you drive it now. Same goes for a SKYLINE

The Mr2 is a Raw car with none of that fancy crap, hence to me is a more rewarding drive

[Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm]

aidy the only reason your evo handles at all is due to all the electronics correcting all the things the car does wrong!

Oh yeah, keep the ill-informed clichés coming Maybe you could explain what electrics the car has and how it corrects things?

Ok well mainly the AYC, this if i remember right basically monitors the 'actual' course of travel relative to the 'intended' course of travel. without this it would handle with loads of understeer!

on track a late spec MR2 turbo and an evo of the same year i doubt there would be much if anything in it.

Nope. The EVO equiv of the MR2 is about the EVO III. Pretty similar in price but the EVO III again has better handling.

that i don't believe! the early evo's were pants! lacked power too compared to later ones. would still be close though i reckon

MR2 wins hands down on bird pulling power mind

Well I do note that your new forum is a lovely shade of pink....I'll say no more

jealous

[Aidy]

Ok well mainly the AYC, this if i remember right basically monitors the 'actual' course of travel relative to the 'intended' course of travel. without this it would handle with loads of understeer!

Nope. It is a trick rear diff that senses yaw movement and gives torque to the rear wheel with most grip. It will help tighten the car up when it oversteers but has no effect on understeer. In fact the EVO has less understeer than the MR2 did.

that i don't believe! the early evo's were pants! lacked power too compared to later ones. would still be close though i reckon

Maybe compared to later ones but they still had 260 BHP and 4WD.

[Leon.]

Lads, why don't you settle this by comparing knobs?

[Aidy]

NO mate, what im saying is a EVO is a quick CAR , junk the elecronics and all that jazz, and you would need to be a very skilled driver to drive it the same as you drive it now. Same goes for a SKYLINE

The Mr2 is a Raw car with none of that fancy crap, hence to me is a more rewarding drive

But you've never driven the EVO so how do you know what it drives like? Funny how when the MR2 is proven slower than another car people use euphemisms like "more rewarding" and "more challenging". What you actually mean is "slower"

[Aidy]

Lads, why don't you settle this by comparing knobs?

No contest there, mine is massive.....just look at my car

[Speedy]

Good grief...

Can you buy an evo for a few hundred quid? Will it be cheap to insure and run? Will it do 140'000miles+ before it gives up?

Just out of interest

[shafster]

Good grief...

Can you buy an evo for a few hundred quid? Will it be cheap to insure and run? Will it do 140'000miles+ before it gives up?

Just out of interest

of course, you just have to look at how many old evo's are on the roads........ errrrrrrr

[Rikki]

As I previously said my 2 takes all the Evo's and Scoob's that have tried it on when driving around. True enough thats mainly on "private roads" that are pretty straight but hey, my car costs a third of a cheap new Evo or Scoob. As for AYC, active centre diff's etc, all well and good but who cares? My GT-S is ten years old, doesnt have ABS, no traction control, no fancy snow button - just 3 pedals and a 5 speed box. I've driven it hard and so far so good Ive not lost control.

By the way I am sitting across from Evo_Fraz from the MLR who says your a bit of a "fanny" and regularly cause users on the Mitsi forum endless hassle with your ramblings. If you own an Evo why are you here with the superiority complex annoying MR2 owners?

R.

[ryan]

As far as im aware the EVO is around the same weight , perhaps just a little heavier than the MR2, it certainly isn't as heavy as the equivalent Scooby.
As for handling, any standard EVO would have ANY standard MR2 for breakfast andl unch. At the end of the day the evo has 4 wheels pulling you in a direction, but the Mister two has...well two

[Leon.]

LOL