Anybody tried the Mk2 Turbo Intercooler upgrade from....

[hicks]

im gonna be upgrading my intercooler next spring time so if these come good then ill deff have one. if you can get hard evidence to pove that these are better than the standard intercooler then you could end up with a massive group buy.

[Harry]

yes agree,products and prices are just that



what is required is quantification,the scientific approach.


like water filled with oil they find their own level,such is the job of manufacturing,raw materials play a big part in the final out come of quality
and price/s.
we are all subject to the same suppliers of raw material,except if you are
toyota and are producing millions of,and get a massive deal on volume/s.

there is no miracle product out there,simply because of price being low...

if thor tested this product and gave us results being positive...then the proof is we have a great buy...till then...

[TBDevelopments]

the arguement there would be thor has a rolling road you can't test it effectly on a rolling road, because you can never produce the air flow on a dyno

What you really need is a day of testing a car round a track with a greddy then the same car with this and compair the air intake temps. Some flow testing would be good as well to see where it bottlenecks etc.

Tim
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[matt_mr2t]

Ok so a rr can't reproduce the amount of air over it but surely it could give a respectable difference between the oe and aftermarket I/C's?

[Century Motorsport]

Hi there thanks for the email
its exactly the same as a greddy.......
no differance, except price....
regards
jason xs power

sorry but how can the guy say that without backing it up for a start and you dont even have to be a tech head to realise that the 2 items arent the same just by the physical appearance of the core.

Look at the guys ebay ad for these - i am 99% sure that one of the pics is the greddy item instead of his own.......... very mis-leading

Nathan

[alexwainwright]

Jimmy,

I have available to me all manner of testing and datalogging equipment that could give hard results for Intercooler cooling performance and pressure drop. I have a standard intercooler at the moment, and could rig the pipework up with all the fittings required to do a back to back comparison. I could also tell you what would be required for the piping for the new intercooler.
My job involves testing diesel engine installations for the same data (as well as many more tests), hence this is specialist kit specifically for this type of testing, not just cheap temperature sensors.

Let me know if you would like to come to an arrangement with this, or I could simply tell you what is required and testing procedures.

Alex

[TBDevelopments]

that would be good to know

Tim
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[D3xt3r]

Hmm Jimmy I think you should do the testing as you are the dealer. If the product is as good as you say you will sell a big number of them.

[hicks]

the problem is that i doubt anyone would be willing to waste 300 quid on one of these based on the manufacturers claims. i certainly wont.

were not asking for you to test every product just this one as it is important to know the gains from this setup over the original before we spend our money.

as the seller its your job to get all the imformation for us as buyers are lazy and dont wont to do extra work or waste there money. if you get one of these tested and come up with good figures the pay off will be huge but at the moment you dont seem to be prepared to give people what they want so there fore i wont be giving you my hard earned cash.

[jimmy]

If any one buying one of these would like to have their set up tested by the above poster please enquire to them and we d be glad to hear the results and have them posted on here for all to see , the manufacturrers claims arnt just claims they are tested fully during design stages and when fully fitted .As yet i havnt managed to recieve all details as some are in japanese , but i hope to have them all in english and will then post .

[jimmy]

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[Yas]

Jimmy seeing as your not answering my calls and not responding to my emails i thought i'd attempt getting your attention on this thread!

It has been well over 2 months since i paid for my brake discs which you said i'd have within 2 weeks time...which was meant to be before Xmas

Your company's a JOKE mate

I'm starting to think your going down the same road as 'Officially Pimped'.

Your customer service is totally unexceptable. I've waited 2 months and broken promises all the way....'you'll have it in a couple of days' That is not on my friend, it's not the way it works.... you can't bull$hit your customer continious for over 2 months, i take that as being taking for a ride

Back to the point sort yourself out and REFUND my money as requested ASAP, i ain't got time for your games.

Yasin

[EarL]

Err, well it's not for me. It's for a friend who I am trying to source this for so i'd rather give him a decent piece of working kit rather than stinging him with a "Turbonator" type of thing lol

Try here:

www.UndergroundRaceUK.com

Says website is parked. Not even available. Just the URL is registered.

If theses are around the £300 mark, I'd be very interested.

[Yas]

Don't buy it from this guy/company. Before you hand the money over communication will not be a problem, but as soon as he gets the money there's no contact He owe me nearly 400 quid and it don't look like he wants to give it back.

I had a feeling it was dodgy when he said no paypal

Guys don't do it. As a fellow imocer i thought i'd give you the heads up.

Yas

[Yas]

Yas , your order has been dealt with you ve recieved everything you ordered and have even been offered some freebies as a sorry for the delay fella , we have been overhauling our business / website etc and have had a couple of now sorted , supplier issues aswell as this there was a death in my family during the time you were ordering and we closed for a week . these issues are now all put right and its business as usual , we ve apologised to you for your delay and cant do much more mate .

Yep got the disc's, ordered 'Brembo' but got '3G Brakes' instead I don't care what you say mate these are 2 totally different manufactures.

I'm sorry about the death in your family, but the problems started 2 months before that so you can't use that as a reason.

I had told you before placing the order i need the parts WITHIN 2 weeks but you took over 2 month's to send them.....ok you had supplier problems, you could have kept me informed.

All along you knew you were going to send me '3G Brakes' so why did you make me think i was buying/paid for 'Brembo' Disc's

Bottom line.... i was not happy with the service/disc's you provided.

You can keep the freebie i'd rather not stick a tacky sticker on my paintwork.

Anyways it's done now and i won't be ordering off you again.

Good luck with what your doing.

[nightSpirit]

Personally I'd NEVER buy a part that isn't proven..you pay more money for Trust etc because it's proven...and tested...and researched...all of which cost money, but you know you're getting a quality part. Not a copy.

My Trust IC is great, I'm wanting a boot mount but that's not because the greddy is crap. Inlet temps at the throttle body never rise above 40deg when idling and sat in traffic..and on the move, I rarely see over 20-25deg. So there you go, some proof of the Trust item. Just give one of these copies to someone who can verify it and see what it does. Simple.

And no offense, but it's like MR2s...you see one for 1800 quid, you see one for 4k...chances are (not always true) the 4k car is going to be much better. Same with the coolers, even if you knock off the % dealers add on the Trust will be twice the cost of this one...doesn't that tell you something? maybe it's better? I'm all for saving cash, but cooling is an area not to skimp in.

Got to go, the nurse is throwing me off the computer as it's time for my medication.

[matt_mr2t]

I wouldn't use the above as an excuse for the price.
All an intercooler is, is a core with brackets and end tanks welded on to make it fit specific cars.
I bet the core design is the same on all the cars they make, just differnt sizes.
If you see the amount of space left when you fit a Greddy unit does it not make you wonder why ?

It's because it's not nessesarily designed specifically for the 2 - I'd bet there's a few out there with the same dimension cores, just different pipework and different brackets.

So in effect they're not tested as much as you'd think. They test the other all efficiency of the core itself but then used on god knows how many applications so your are paying for the name to an extent.

[nightSpirit]

Agreed Matt to some extent

The Trust though is fairly unique for the 2, it's tight because they've tried to maximise size of the core...imo. The only other similar application I've seen for the trust core is the ones used on the F40, but I'm betting they aren't Greddy lol.

I'd rather buy a name I know, with proven credentials...especially on important things.

[matt_mr2t]

As long as the actual design is a good one that flows and cools well, it fits and you get what you need your onto a winner.

And by good design I'm covering build quality.