is it a myth?

[craigt1097]

Hello all. I'm new to the MR2 world. and what fun im having now im here.
Finally old enough to insure my first dream car, I have a question. I have an imported 94 MR2 N/A and was told because it is an imported it has 200bhp. is the right. I have driven a uk spec 92 MR2 and mine certainly feels faster. would be greatful if someone can let me know.

[Driftlimits Performance]

Welcome mate! Glad you're enjoying yourself!

The fact that its and import doesn't mean that it has 200bhp I'm afraid.

The only NA to have 200bhp (nigh on) is the Beams VVTI MR2, which I think you'd know if you had it.

They do vary though, from 120bhp to 160bhp I think. and 200 for the beams. Although I'm a turbo head and not sure, an NA guy will come along soon enough!......

[jimGTS]

Hello all. I'm new to the MR2 world. and what fun im having now im here.
Finally old enough to insure my first dream car, I have a question. I have an imported 94 MR2 N/A and was told because it is an imported it has 200bhp. is the right. I have driven a uk spec 92 MR2 and mine certainly feels faster. would be greatful if someone can let me know.

hi mate, welcome.

uk cars, 112bhp to 165bhp (rev 1/2 158bhp, rev3+ 165bhp (?)). they are the same bhp uk or import, it doesnt matter.
the 112bhp version has no spoiler (if that rings a bell with the 92 car you drove).
BEAMS mr2, VERY rare, 200bhp! alot more expensive to.

turbo, rev1/2 220bhp, rev3+ 245bhp!

[Lauren]

Its actually 173bhp for Rev 3+ NAs.

3SFE camry engine is 119bhp
Rev 1,2 158bhp

[jimGTS]

Its actually 173bhp for Rev 3+ NAs.

3SFE camry engine is 119bhp
Rev 1,2 158bhp

you sure they are over 170bhp??? didnt think they were.
nevamind. difference of 5BHP, perhaps your thinking of the mk2 on jap fuel!!

[Rowland]

you sure they are over 170bhp??? didnt think they were.
nevamind. difference of 5BHP, perhaps your thinking of the mk2 on jap fuel!!

Defo' 173 / 174 bhp on a N/A rev3+
IIRC post Aug 96 cars were detuned to 168 BHP due to emission laws I believe.

[ryan]

Yes i'm pretty sure the last rev of the MR2 Mk2 was just over 170bhp, but they were slower and catted from 92 and 'lean burn' from '94 whatever that means. They got heavier with std p/s and other goodies as the years got on.
HTH
Ryan

[jimGTS]

you sure they are over 170bhp??? didnt think they were.
nevamind. difference of 5BHP, perhaps your thinking of the mk2 on jap fuel!!

Defo' 173 / 174 bhp on a N/A rev3+
IIRC post Aug 96 cars were detuned to 168 BHP due to emission laws I believe.

AAAHHH, thats where i got that figure from then. so i was right in a way, lol!

[Lauren]

you sure they are over 170bhp??? didnt think they were.
nevamind. difference of 5BHP, perhaps your thinking of the mk2 on jap fuel!!

Defo' 173 / 174 bhp on a N/A rev3+
IIRC post Aug 96 cars were detuned to 168 BHP due to emission laws I believe.

AAAHHH, thats where i got that figure from then. so i was right in a way, lol!

Yep. Right but wrong

[JohnnyC]

UK NA rev3 is 173bhp,
UK NA rev4 & 5 is 168bhp.

[Mark Edwards]

turbo, rev1/2 220bhp, rev3+ 245bhp!

Rev1/2 225ps (222bhp), Rev3+ 245ps (241bhp)

[JohnnyC]

I think we need a facts area somewhere on the site to rival the 'know ur 2' on MR2OC

[Rob]

Rev 3's were 173/4 bhp and Pre rev 3 were between 156 and 160 if you mean the 3SGE engine.

What people dont realise is that the rev 1 and 2's are half a second quicker to 60 than the later models. Not that this particularly matters but it makes me happier

[Vindezal]

Rev 3's were 173/4 bhp and Pre rev 3 were between 156 and 160 if you mean the 3SGE engine.

What people dont realise is that the rev 1 and 2's are half a second quicker to 60 than the later models. Not that this particularly matters but it makes me happier

Because of the TVIS on the rev1/2 better torque. I have 174 rev3 N/A.Different set up.

[Rogue]

The figures for both Japanese and UK cars are identical, but the JDM figures are given in PS, not BHP, and therefore appear slightly higher.

They're not.

Rogue

[pizza boy]

The torque is actually the same...its just not sitting up at 10000000000000000000000000000000000 rpm like it is on the Rev3+NA. Other factors that make the Rev3+ NA slower than rev1/2 is taller gear ratios and its heavier due to extra safety cack. I can strut in my anorak just as well as the rest of you.

[KiwiMR2]

Range of figures in this thread

Here's what Iv'e always known them as:

2nd gen JDM 3SGE ~ 157hp
3rd gen JDM 3SGE ~ 173hp
4th gen JDM 3SGE ~ 200hp, 21.0kg-m of torque. (beams.....MR2 has the red head, Altezza the black head) There was only ever 1000 MR2 beams motors made.

Last time I looked into the differences etc. I found out this too:

The 3rd gen 3sge, consisted of different cams, larger valves, a variable length intake manifold with a step effect were the manifold meets the head, in order to enhance the swirl characteristics of the intake charge.The headers were of larger diameter but shorter length, to aid top end power.
Power was up about 12kw at 129kw(173hp)@7000rpm
(previously 117kw(157hp)@6500rpm).The difference on the road wasn't that noticeable over the previous gen 3sge till at least 5200rpm were the acoustic control system did its jig and openened the second intake track to take advantage of the new engine's mods.In late '95 the compression was lowered back to 10:1 in order to meet the new emission standards and as a result the power came back to 125kw(167hp)@7000rpm .

Thought that was quite intresting

Cheers
KiwiMR2

[Dave Couzens]

Rev 3's were 173/4 bhp and Pre rev 3 were between 156 and 160 if you mean the 3SGE engine.

What people dont realise is that the rev 1 and 2's are half a second quicker to 60 than the later models. Not that this particularly matters but it makes me happier

I understood it to be 158bhp for the rev1 and 154 for the rev2 due to the cat taking a few horses off the same engine.

[stevowaring]

So what are the 0-60 times for the different revs of MR2, N/A and Turbo?

Steve

[jimGTS]

So what are the 0-60 times for the different revs of MR2, N/A and Turbo?

Steve

hopefully im right with this

rev1/2 NA 0-60 7.2
rev3+ NA 0-60 7.7
rev1/2 tubby 0-60 5.7
rev3+ tubby 0-60 5.3