Forged Engine rebuild

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Poker Face
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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I hear you on the ball ache, I haven't looked at your build thread for a bit but I have been following it and admire anyone who is willing to give it a go even though they know it's going to be hard due to work space etc. Total respect to you for that.
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Poker Face wrote:I hear you on the ball ache, I haven't looked at your build thread for a bit but I have been following it and admire anyone who is willing to give it a go even though they know it's going to be hard due to work space etc. Total respect to you for that.


Yeah, to be fair I've not had too much hassle but outsourcing all different types of work can be a real headache, The only thing I've had to do that with was the block/crank/piston rings but they all went to the same place. If I then needed welding/fabricating and wiring on top of that I'd be chasing everyone trying to get work done, Luckily Kris on here is taking care of the wiring side of things (he actually sorted the machine work for me too) so that's one less stress, the weldong/fabbing is something I can sort myself. The beauty of this deal is that you drive it to one place and they do the rest :thumleft:
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Yeah that's what I like about it, even if I had all of the tools to do the job myself I'd not have a clue where to get all the machine work done etc. I only moved up here to Runcorn a year or so ago and I'm still getting the lay of the land a bit. It also depends on how much spare time you have I suppose. I've got two young kids and I also used to go away a lot when I was in the Army so I like to try and spend my time with them and not locked in the garage.

It sounds like your build is going well and I think the reward of driving something you have rebuilt yourself will be very rewarding. Plus you have it exactly as you want it spec wise the right turbo (gtx rocks by the way ), clucth etc you pretty much have the car the way you want it.
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Thanks for the kind comments, Keep us updated with it man, there seems to be 400+ bhp mr2 popping up all over the place just now :thumleft:
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
ashley wrote:Peter is the same opinion as you- do it in a controlled manner (i.e. revs ltd to around 5K and essential to use boost) on the road and give the engine components a chance to settle in with each other.


FTFY :thumleft:


Post updated for you :thumleft:
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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After googling the company i'd be a bit wary about buying a forged engine package from them.
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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http://www.driftworks.com/forum/other-c ... -read.html

Theres many more threads like this out there. Im not usually one to slag people I haven't had any dealings with, but the evidence is very much out there with these guys.

Obviously you will get people who are unhappy with all tuners/specialists though, for every x people who are happy there will be one person who has been messed about, had bad service, bad work etc. but... some of those stories about them seem to follow a pattern - taking months to build an engine (how ?!) and incompetent mapping.

I'd avoid.
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Thanks guys I have seen some of these threads myself and I have been down there prior to getting them to do the work. If they are as bad as some of these posts suggest then why are the always so busy? For me the evidence for out weighs that against at least I know these guys won't lock my calibration out and not give me the pass word like James Darby did from 3s or JD Modified as they are now called. I also could getting it mapped somewhere else and just let them do the build. We shall see but the car is already there and I have told them to start so let's hope they are okay. :pray:
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Poker Face wrote:Thanks guys I have seen some of these threads myself and I have been down there prior to getting them to do the work. If they are as bad as some of these posts suggest then why are the always so busy? For me the evidence for out weighs that against at least I know these guys won't lock my calibration out and not give me the pass word like James Darby did from 3s or JD Modified as they are now called. I also could getting it mapped somewhere else and just let them do the build. We shall see but the car is already there and I have told them to start so let's hope they are okay. :pray:


read the DW threads, they DO lock the ECU out, as someone found out when they went to get their terrible map sorted out elsewhere.

hope all goes well anyway
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Cheers Rob, I'll get the engine done by them and get it mapped by the guy who had to sort my last call out.
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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I had a forged short block rebuild and after 150 miles of careful driving I couldn't take it anymore lol. Opened it up in 3rd to 7000 rpm and it was beautifully smooth :D

By the time the engine had reached 1300 miles it was lapping the nurburgring :D

Got back home and ran 12.71 at Santa pod which was an improvement on a 12.94 pass that I'd being trying to beat for 3 years lol. Albeit with a lower compression ratio of 8.0-1 over a standard engine.

I'd just run it in yourself bud.
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Rob - East Coast Imports wrote:they DO lock the ECU out, as someone found out when they went to get their terrible map sorted out elsewhere.


So they rent you a map, not sell you one. :roll:
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Peter Gidden - SBITS wrote:
Rob - East Coast Imports wrote:they DO lock the ECU out, as someone found out when they went to get their terrible map sorted out elsewhere.


So they rent you a map, not sell you one. :roll:


essentially yes,

the DW thread, very basically, is a few lads had basic SR20det mods (boost up, injectors, different AFM and a map) and cars came back underpower and the same misfire from 5k+ on boost, they blamed everything but the map, had the cars for an age and when took somewhere else they wouldn't give out the code, the new mapper cracked it (the code is/was 1988, for reference) found the map was a total mess and fixed it.. problem solved

and their response for the car cutting out when coming off the throttle was "keep your foot on the throttle and try to catch the revs at 1750-2k when changing gear"

*just to reiterate, I've never had any work done by them.. or seen any of their work first hand, so my comments are based purely on other peoples experiences*
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Poker Face wrote:
androo007 wrote:What's the cost of stage 1 package?


It's 3.5k Inc vat.

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:shock: wowzers
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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I've read a bit further on the DW thread and mapping doesn't sound like their strong point at least they started out on Toyota's so hopefully mechanically they are okay and I'll take it to the place I used before. Having had one map rented to me by JD Modified I don't want to go down that road again.

Androo you think that is over priced?
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Poker Face wrote:I've read a bit further on the DW thread and mapping doesn't sound like their strong point at least they started out on Toyota's so hopefully mechanically they are okay and I'll take it to the place I used before. Having had one map rented to me by JD Modified I don't want to go down that road again.

Androo you think that is over priced?


http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/79 ... of-the-gt/

engine building doesn't either :roll:

FWIW, 3.5k for a supply, build and fit doesn't seem too bad.

If you take it elsewhere to be mapped will they still honour the warranty on the engine build if it goes boobs? are you planning on paying with a credit card for added safety?
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Poker Face
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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Yes Rob I am going to do that, I nearly posted I'd be using a cc just in case but changed my mind.
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Re: Forged Engine rebuild

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I've been looking their webpage and i also have read horrible nightmares about mappings gone bad.

One unhappy customer makes 10 times more noise than 10 happy customers. Luckily, we have reputable and trusted "2" specialists to care about our projects... So i'd choose one of them instead a generic builder.

Regards
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