Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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Re: Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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jonno wrote:Forgot to mention Lauren, its about time we took each _other_out for some passenger laps!! - I spent ages tracking you down at the TOC day but everytime I was ready to go out you were somewhere else!. I took Mark out in the end :)


Yep defo Neil, i'd be really interesting to see how your car goes/how you drive etc..

And vice versa i suspect. ;)

Lets hope you piping hangs together this time. I've got a bit of a suspected oil control ring issue, hopefully it'll at least last the day.
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Re: Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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Lauren wrote:how you drive etc..

And vice versa i suspect. ;)


Well I can surmise Lauren's stiles...

Enter the corner far too fast, give it xxxx loads of lock then xxxx about with all the controls until you're clear of the corner :p :D
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Re: Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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i'm curious as to what the last 8 pages have got to do with the response of a turbo motor when off boost in comparison to the n/a version?

Lots of ego bashing going on though :?
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Re: Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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allan welsh wrote:i'm curious as to what the last 8 pages have got to do with the response of a turbo motor when off boost in comparison to the n/a version?

Lots of ego bashing going on though :?



Why not enlighten us with your valued input then?
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Re: Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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allan welsh wrote:i'm curious as to what the last 8 pages have got to do with the response of a turbo motor when off boost in comparison to the n/a version?

Lots of ego bashing going on though :?


*nods solemnly*

Look at my first reply on this thread, I'm probably the only one that answered :)
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allan welsh wrote:i'm curious as to what the last 8 pages have got to do with the response of a turbo motor when off boost in comparison to the n/a version?

Lots of ego bashing going on though :?


Pffff just because you can't drive, wiener boy.


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michael wrote:
allan welsh wrote:i'm curious as to what the last 8 pages have got to do with the response of a turbo motor when off boost in comparison to the n/a version?

Lots of ego bashing going on though :?



Why not enlighten us with your valued input then?


i did, 1st reply as it turned out

aidy - funny how things go off topic

goto10 - whether I can drive or not is not under debate - I agree I'm quite slow hence no jamming up this post with my worthless input
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Re: Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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allan welsh wrote:

i did, 1st reply as it turned out

aidy - funny how things go off topic

goto10 - whether I can drive or not is not under debate - I agree I'm quite slow hence no jamming up this post with my worthless input


Blimey, are you available for parties?

"hence no jamming up this post with my worthless input"

Isn't that what you've just done though? In fact your post has thus far generated another 5 worthless posts.
Surely if you object so strongly then you shouldn't really reply within the thread to avoid this terrible situation snowballing out of control (practice what you preach), a better approach would be to instead start a thread in the Off Topic section to discuss this very valid point, thus demonstrating how we're meant to behave at the same time.
I on the other can't see anything too heinous about some natural progression/discussion in the thread.
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Re: Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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ive never driven a n/a so cant really compare the 2 but driving my turbo today there deffently not sluggish off boost. also i knoticed a few people commenting on people who drive in 5th at 30 ahouldnt be driving anyway? i spend most of my time in fifth as theres no need to change down. my tubby pulls fine fromabout 20 mph in fifth on the flat aand will pull up most hills at 30mph.

someone also put that a n\a would pull up hills better but people seem to be missing the point here. my rev 2 turbo starts spoiling up at around 2k so your not really off boost if you need to get up a steep hill and id imagine a n/a would have to change down a couple of pegs to get up there anyway. the turbo is such a flexible engine its untrue. if youve driven other turbod cars of the same age then youll notice the power delivery is no way near as smooth or linear. ive driven a fiat coupe turbo (16v) and although a quick car has a serious lack of guts lower down in the rev range.

ive also driven a couple of brand new scoobys and the sti model takes alot more winding up to get it to start pulling compared to the wrx or mr2.

just my opinion ofcourse.

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Re: Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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Bit late on this one but...

*technical stuff*

A turbo'd car will have very different cam timing to a NA (not mentioning compression as well).

There's normally very little valve overlap in a car with forced induction as you don't want all the mix "blown" out of the exhaust valve, also the lower compression will mean that a turbo'd car WILL be slower off boost, end of story.

However as many have said it's not exactly slow off boost and it's pretty easy to get it on boost really, it starts so low as to not be a big issue at all.

However if you were to turn off you boost entirely (don't know if you can a la the SC's EM clutch) then you'd really feel it higher up the revs.
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Re: Arent turbos sluggish when trying to drive off boost??

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Mark Mailer wrote:However if you were to turn off you boost entirely (don't know if you can a la the SC's EM clutch)


You could jam the wastegate open, though that would just be silly ;)

I remember when the main boost hose blew off on my R5 GTT - 80mph, downhill, with the wind behind me and my foot flat to the floor.. And that's not an exaggeration :) (I also killed the turbo doing that, but, that's another story :oops: )
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