Uncharted 2 not possible on xbox 360

[mikee66]

Naughty Dog co-president Christophe Balestra has said that Uncharted 2: Among Thieves would be "impossible" to port onto the Xbox 360 due to its technical demands.

Published by Sony Computer Entertainment, the sequel to 2007's Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is due out this October as a PS3 exclusive. Speaking to Ars Technica, Balestra said that he is "100% sure" that the game would not work on the Xbox 360.

He pointed to the PS3's in-built Blu-ray capacity and hard drive as proving the pivotal factors, largely because Uncharted 2: Among Thieves will use "every single bit" of its 25GB disc.

"You can play the entire game without loading. We don't require an install. We're doing all the post-processing effects on the SPUs (synergistic processing units). The quality of the depth of field we have, you can't do that on the Xbox," he explained.

"We've invested a lot of time maximising the power of the machine. That's our job, to make the PS3 shine."

Balestra also said that Naughty Dog is "very open" to sharing its technical developments with other third-party PS3 developers.

just thought i'd post this for Sam etc who said the ps3 had to have installs cos the blu ray drive couldn't keep up.

[Andy Jones]

After seeing lots of dodgy XBOX ports in the PS3's infancy, The first Uncharted clearly gave us an early indication of what was to come when talented coders are behind the wheel

[Ekona]

So a guy who has an exclusive contract with Sony to make games for the PS3 comes out and says that the 360 could never handle the game? Well, that is a shocker.

[Andy Jones]

They should give the Uncharted source code to Valve or EA and see what happens

[Bender Unit]

So a guy who has an exclusive contract with Sony to make games for the PS3 comes out and says that the 360 could never handle the game? Well, that is a shocker.

Bingo ....

That's our job, to make the PS3 shine."

An Mythbusters have already proved you can polish a turd!

[H3RB]

any one seen the uncharted 2 cinema mode? damn insane! blows any replay feature that ive ever seen out of the water
http://kotaku.com/5349667/uncharted-2s- ... th-support

[SamUK]

Maybe i should watch some decent HD trailers but i didnt think it looked that much better than the first one.


Even im bored of arguing about this anyway.


The sales figures for the PS3 both games and systems do all the arguing needed anyway.

[mikee66]

On a serious note i just read an article that the biggest game of the year so far (Batman) has better graphics on the ps3 version than the 360

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=14110

Now were starting to see what the ps3 can do i think and with the recent price cut that makes it £229 inc bluray player and wireless built in i think things will get interesting

[Andy Jones]

Now were starting to see what the ps3 can do i think and with the recent price cut that makes it £229 inc bluray player and wireless built in i think things will get interesting

They need to take action before crimbo to get more machines out there, I read somewhere that the PS3 is now rock bottom in console sales ... In Japan

[SamUK]

Now were starting to see what the ps3 can do i think and with the recent price cut that makes it £229 inc bluray player and wireless built in i think things will get interesting

They need to take action before crimbo to get more machines out there, I read somewhere that the PS3 is now rock bottom in console sales ... In Japan

It really hasnt been doing well but to be fair the japs are now waiting for there new slim version.


And mikee, jus remember u started the thread.

[mikee66]

Now were starting to see what the ps3 can do i think and with the recent price cut that makes it £229 inc bluray player and wireless built in i think things will get interesting

They need to take action before crimbo to get more machines out there, I read somewhere that the PS3 is now rock bottom in console sales ... In Japan

It's dropped in Japan yeah but the ps3 has still sold 3x more than the 360 there to date, as i said i think things are gonna get very interesting

xbox 360 elite (120Gb hdd) + wireless network adaptor + play and charge kit + Xbox live subs (1yr) + bluray player = £446.93 (argos)

ps3 (120gb hdd) + wireless network adaptor + rechargable controller + psn subs (lifetime) + bluray player (arguably the best avail) = £244.69

I think a helluva lot of people are gonna start looking at the ps3 now a lot more seriously.

[SamUK]

I dont think that takes into account that the xbox has had a price drop too but it is more expensive now yea.


The 360's game catalogue is still alot better than the PS3's though which must count for alot.


As for being the best bluray player. My internal drive for £80 is better


I thought the PS3 was only classed as the best player because you could update the firmware anyway.

Is that even nessesary anymore?

[mikee66]

I dont think that takes into account that the xbox has had a price drop too but it is more expensive now yea.


The 360's game catalogue is still alot better than the PS3's though which must count for alot.


As for being the best bluray player. My internal drive for £80 is better


I thought the PS3 was only classed as the best player because you could update the firmware anyway.

Is that even nessesary anymore?

I just got those prices this morning Sam,

99% of people don't want old games though Sam they want whats new and also the ps3 has a massive back catalogue also,

Can't really compare an internal drive though can you cos you still need a pc or laptop to run it and i'd like to see the proof that it's better please

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-blu-ray-players/

Why would you not want to update your bd player?

[matt_mr2t]

I've always believed, as an owner of both, that eventually the PS3 would start to outclass the Xbox. It had to happen, it's newer with more advanced tech.

I still prefer playing on the ol Xbox though

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune was such a surprise to me though. I got it in a bundle when I bought the console and absolutely loved it. It truly was a great game and I'm looking forward to the new one.

As for Batman, I played the demo on the PS3, tonight I'll download it on the 360 and see if there genuinely is a difference between them. I find it hard to believe a cross format game will differ personally.

[eltonbird]

Had to comment on the Batman stuff. I played the demo first on the 360, then on the PS3, and I was quite shocked that it looked noticeably worse to me on the PS3.
There's more slowdown, screen tearing, and the resolution / Anti-aliasing is noticeable worse in game (hard to tell in cut-scenes).

The shadowing on the characters is good, but the ambient occlusion stuff on the 360 gives the scenery a better sense of depth.

Most important difference is the joker (if that matters to you) and which controller you prefer if you've got both consoles, but I'd plump for the 360 one due to the graphical clarity and less slowdown and tearing.

[SamUK]

I dont think that takes into account that the xbox has had a price drop too but it is more expensive now yea.


The 360's game catalogue is still alot better than the PS3's though which must count for alot.


As for being the best bluray player. My internal drive for £80 is better


I thought the PS3 was only classed as the best player because you could update the firmware anyway.

Is that even nessesary anymore?

I just got those prices this morning Sam,

99% of people don't want old games though Sam they want whats new and also the ps3 has a massive back catalogue also,

Can't really compare an internal drive though can you cos you still need a pc or laptop to run it and i'd like to see the proof that it's better please

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-blu-ray-players/

Why would you not want to update your bd player?

last post. as much as it pains me lol.

Wel for starters i dont THINK the new price for 360s has come into effect.

There will be a model with a 250gb HDD soon too. Already spotted in other countries.

And what does "99% of people don't want old games though".

I didnt say they did. I said (kinda) that they want a decent games library with there console.

The PS3's attachement rate is shocking. There only used for playing movies.

A number of developers have already come out and said the PS3 isnt worth there time.

And i didnt mean there doing crap in Japan. They have been doing crap everywhere.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_June_2009 - you can also view the past months from there too.

The fact that sony normally outsell the xbox in japan is obvious. The japs love sony.

The fact that the 360 has been outselling the PS3 for just the odd months in an achievement.

With bluray updating, the only reason it was an issue for the first year or so is because the format wasnt even finished. stupidly.

I believe it is on its final profile now? So people no longer need to update. drifing off now though.

oh and as a final note.

Natal is gonna kill everything.

[mikee66]

Had to comment on the Batman stuff. I played the demo first on the 360, then on the PS3, and I was quite shocked that it looked noticeably worse to me on the PS3.
There's more slowdown, screen tearing, and the resolution / Anti-aliasing is noticeable worse in game (hard to tell in cut-scenes).

The shadowing on the characters is good, but the ambient occlusion stuff on the 360 gives the scenery a better sense of depth.

Most important difference is the joker (if that matters to you) and which controller you prefer if you've got both consoles, but I'd plump for the 360 one due to the graphical clarity and less slowdown and tearing.

#

Can't comment on the demo tbh as i never played the xbox version or read anything about the two but you've said the opposite to everything i've read about the full game on both machines

[matt_mr2t]

Had to comment on the Batman stuff. I played the demo first on the 360, then on the PS3, and I was quite shocked that it looked noticeably worse to me on the PS3.
There's more slowdown, screen tearing, and the resolution / Anti-aliasing is noticeable worse in game (hard to tell in cut-scenes).

The shadowing on the characters is good, but the ambient occlusion stuff on the 360 gives the scenery a better sense of depth.

Most important difference is the joker (if that matters to you) and which controller you prefer if you've got both consoles, but I'd plump for the 360 one due to the graphical clarity and less slowdown and tearing.

#

Can't comment on the demo tbh as i never played the xbox version or read anything about the two but you've said the opposite to everything i've read about the full game on both machines

I did notice that there was flickering and what not when playing the demo on PS3, I jus assumed it was because it was a demo, that often happens as far as I'm aware. But then I started thinking, I read that the base for Batman is actually Bioshock/Gears Of War. Both of which were Xbox exclusives originally. I remember a lot of people saying the port of Bioshock to the PS3 was actually quite poor and suffered.

[Bender Unit]

I think a helluva lot of people are gonna start looking at the ps3 now a lot more seriously.

Or possibly not, you see the PS3 has been a marketing joke and they will have damaged the consoles creditability. Even if they released some “got to have” game it still wouldn’t be enough to draw people in.

Seriously who are all these millions that they will pull in that will make the difference?

-All the people who waited for the PS3 but got bored waiting for it and got a 360 instead?

-All the people who bought the PS3 but sold it for the 360 for a wider choice of games and a vastly better online experience?

-Established 360 owners?

I know 3 people who have abandoned their PS3’s for a 360 - sure they aren’t the only people!

Now were starting to see what the ps3 can do

Wow that’s a leap of faith – based on a subjective review of a cross platform game which as discussed in the review are nigh on identical. TBH that comparison has about as much worth as me saying I prefer Pepsi to Pepsi Max – for all intents and purposes they are the same. I have yet to see any game on either platform that is so significantly better you could even claim 1 platform was graphically superior to another.

[Ekona]

I don't think there's much debate that the PS3 is far more poweful than the 360, but really it should be as it's much newer technology. The main issue with it is that it's hard to program for, and that's why it doesn't look a million miles better than the 360, which is the easier system to work on.

Bear in mind that it's also easier and quicker to make one version of the game and then port it over than it is to make a much prettier version and then have to reduce all the textures and CPU time to pop it on a lesser platform. Give it a couple of years and the PS3 will look far superior to the 360 as the programmers figure out how to use it.