Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Rogue
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Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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For those of you who don't know, my girlfriend Lyn is one of the directors of Rogue Motorsport. She's the lady who's voice you hear on the welcome message if you call us and the person most likely to make you tea if you visit! She drives a TRD VM180 which looks like this:

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A few weeks ago, Lyn noticed a knocking noise coming from the engine. Upon inspection this turned out to be a total bottom end failure caused by oval bores. This is a fairly typical 1ZZ-FE failure point, but is usually associated with pre-cat failure. Since this car was equipped with a TRD exhaust manifold from the factory it's never even seen a pre-cat!

The decision was made to swap in a replacement engine, but this was the ideal time to upgrade. The 2ZZ-GE from the Celica T-Sport / Lotus Elise was an obvious choice and along with the six speed gearbox something we're very familiar with. Why Toyota chose to put their sportiest engine into everything but their sports car remains one of life's great mysteries!

Lyn wanted something a little more special for the VM180 though and opted for the 1MZ-FE 3.0 litre V6 engine from the '96+ Toyota Camry. We've successfully installed both the 3SGTE and 3SGE BEAMS into a mk3 chassis in the past and felt that there would be a good amount of commonality between the two projects. Indeed, the 1M family of engines is more contemporary than the 3S series so some elements of chassis integrations should be easier.

We managed to source not one but two donor Camrys, one of which had just 44,000 miles on the clock with 2 owners from new and a full Toyota service history! The 1MZ-FE was removed from the Camry and installed in the VM180 with suprising speed. Mechanicals were dummied up and the engine was running within a week. Once everyone was happy with the install everything was measured and removed. In order to keep chassis modifications to a minimum we designed our own laser-cut mounts to mate engine and chassis. Lyn had specified a "factory" looking install so rather than painting the engine it was bead-blasted back to it's original condition.

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Here's a video of the engine running:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I4aPmei-ao8

...and before anyone asks the car had just been driven and so was nice and warm! The exhaust system is integrated at the catalytic converter and the VM180 has been through an MOT with the V6 engine installed. From there it's into the factory fit TRD back box which sound almost silent at idle / low load but really lets rip when you mash the loud pedal! Here's some footage of the car being driven on the road (with appropriate respect for speed limits, road conditions, etc.):

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yS4q6cYWqtM

Both the 1MZ-FE and ZZW30 support OBD-II which we were able to take advantage of to monitor the engine's condition with an OBD-II scanner. The mk3's dashboard however is expecting information from the more sophisticated CANbus, which is a method of serial communication not supported by the older 1MZ-FE ECU. To get around this (and supply some meaningful information to the dashboard) we've piggy-backed the original 1ZZ-FE ECU.

Lyn's already planning more modifications for the car - starting with some new wheels - and plans to have a Link G3 LEM ECU installed in a couple of weeks. We've seen some good gains with aftermarket engine managment on the older 3VZ-FE engines and are optimistic about the 1MZ-FE.

Patrick
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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stunning car Patrick/Lyn, even better with the V6! :thumleft:
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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whats the rough cost of putting a camre engine into a mk3??
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

Post by amnesia »

WOW !!!

I generally don't like the Mk3, but that is awesome !

:clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Any shots of the engine bay please?
Actually quite like the look of the MK3 with more aggressive styling :thumleft:
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Greddy-Matt wrote:Any shots of the engine bay please?


Engine bay photos added to original post. :thumleft:

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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Thats very neatly shoe horned in there :thumleft:

Not much room left over for the supercharger tho :wink:
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Sounds good :D :thumleft:
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Very impressive. More snug and comfy looking engine bay than my slippers!
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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any news on your veilside mk3 patrick?

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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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IANSMITH wrote:any news on your veilside mk3 patrick?


Yes - it starts, runs and drives but it's still a long way from finished!

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Now Lyn's car is finished we'll lavish some more attention on mine.

Patrick
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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looks wicked 8)
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Saw this in the flesh yesterday, sounds superb, fit looks OEM, top all round job. Lynn is a lucky girl (aprt from being Patrick's other half)!
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Well done guys :clap: 8)
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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The start of this sounds just like Jamiroquai's "Travelling Without Moving"! Lovely noise and looks great :thumleft:
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

Post by Squizz »

WOW! :shock:

Just seen this... I had noticed a MK3 on the ramps on the webcam last week and thought it was Patrick's car. I'm now assuming it was Lyn's. :wink:

Fantastic work! 8)

Now you'll excuse me while I go and beat Karen over the head with PC until she lets me have a V6 after all!!!!! ](*,)
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

Post by mav »

That sounds amazing and looks like it goes pretty well too.

I like what I see. :thumleft:
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Very nice bit of kit sounds lush.

Would be interested to know some power/torque stats. 0-60 etc etc.

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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Caribbean_Blue wrote:Would be interested to know some power/torque stats. 0-60 etc etc.


Stock figures for the Camry are 188bhp / 203lb. We'll get Lyn's car on the dyno shortly and should be able to provide simulated 0 -60 and quarter mile times as well.

Patrick
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Re: Lyn's TRD VM180 V6

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Please can we keep this directly on topic, I have removed some unuseful posts at members' requests.
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