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(Twobrutal) have just learned that at the last minute we have been moved out of the MR2 village of IMOC/ROC/MK1 club and into the small area enclosed by the trade stands and facilities areas - this is previously where Rogue were supposed to be... ie a fair trek from the other Toyota clubs.
...... apparently our area that was going to be used for completing several MK1.5 conversions is not going to be cleared in time, so we've been moved to a larger location... [-o< . 
'village', but PW said it was up to nik, and although I emailed him, i've not heard anything.(as it always has) if TB want too - Nik would have to get in touch asap tho - It's havoc for our stand design all this last minute larky (although TB would have to be happy to fit into our layout rather than 'steal a square corner')....
anna wrote:I sent an email and pm'd PW about incorporating TB into the
As IMOC/ROC/mk1 club already lost the area of land where Honda revs now are, we would be pretty tight for space if TB were on the stand too, but I guess the offer still stands
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We are tight enough for space as it is, we must ensure we have enough room for our members as surely they must come first.- Circuit Pack 
.."real" reason as we see it,we cant quite believe there is a huge pile of debris on that pitch enough to have to relocate an entire club but nothing we can do really.....i think questions will be asked if the IMOC/Mk1 club pitch is clear and that wasnt the real reason we have been given for being moved.....something isnt right..See you all there!
PW@Woodsport wrote:we are a bit miffed cos we have been moved twice now during the last months and on the 11th hour moved again absolutely nowhere near any of the other mr2 clubs for no
If you want my honest opinion i think someone has asked for us to be moved for whatever reason.The way its been explained to us makes it sound like the imoc/mk1 club pitch is a building site and they dont have enough time to clear it for all the clubs,i guess we will find out down there.
Still it'll be a cracking event all the same and we have been promised first pick of the entire ground for next year so not all bad.
Either way we all have to make the most of it.
- originally we were to have sole use of the plot we are now on plus where honda revs are. 
This was a bit of a shock to us, and meant we were really tight for space - what was worst was that Claire didn't feel the need to inform anyone from any club!(as we are all mr2's). I know that when TB were contacted originally right at the begining TB were doing their own thing. I wouldn't want to force you to become part of the 'village', but was trying to make the most of the bad situation. SO we lost quite a lot of area, and thought we had to accomodate 30+ cars... hence cracking open Autocad and planning exactly how we were going to fit everything in - we had agreement from the organisers to camp at the back of our stand ages ago, but trying to squeeze 270 cars on this small bit of turf was tight - very tight.- Claire was made aware that we were really not happy losing the honda revs area, and that we were pushed for space as a result.(but then perhaps they haven't told us?). I don't know why she's told you this and not us - tbh it might be a cover up for her shocking organisation! (sorry to criticise, but not telling us about the changes was really bad form on her part).- we did not request you guys to be moved, but claire was aware that we were pushed for space. When the extra space became available, i guess our plot was the most space pressured, and as you guys weren't part of the multiple booking, you got moved (i'm guessing here, but it seems the most likely explanation from where i'm sat)... read what you will in to it!(although I thought you guys wanted to have your own very well defined plot....)? Sorry if it hasn't quite worked out for you. You never know - you should try swapping with one of the smaller clubs who are a bit more central 
....as you say that could well be a cover up for bad organisation,sounds like BS to me! 
...but these things happen i guess,you lot will still be able to smell our barbie lol ... these are my opinions... but what a load of crapbetween cars than the entire size of our pitch which had to include our tents, cars and marquee.'fit in with us or don't bother' attitude; did you also dictate to the mk1club and mr2oc about what they could and could not do? Oh yeah, and the fact that a large percentage of TB members contribute a hell of a lot of technical knowledge or help to other IMOC users.(the change was made at such a late time that all of the maps and literature had no mention of TB in it's actual location), that it didn't last one night.. and presumably was pulled down and subsequently dissapeared without trace. I can't imagine the MK1 Club or it's members doing this..... hope we made you feel welcome!- really sad you feel that way.... and I'm really annoyed that so many of our members decided to not come without saying anything (I guess the weather put quite a few off)... if we'd known beforehand it really would have eased the situation.(I don't think you had a full turn out either? ), but what with it being so last minute, we didn't get the chance to work things out. since Feb - at which point Jo from the mk1club asked two brutal if they wanted to join in - to which the answer was no. A lot of effort went in to our joint stand, starting months ago by Tom, Jo, Stu and others from all three committees, and needless to say, if Two brutal had been on our pitch for the weekend we would have done everything within reason to accomodate you (just ask Paul about the email I sent him asking him how he wanted to 'play' being on the same pitch before TB were moved) - but I had no definite answer from TB, and then you got moved. I'm really sorry about that - and I would have loved you guys to have been part of the plot we were on, but it just didn't seem to work in the end... IMOC have been perfectly willing to work alongside TB, both in terms of a joint plot at the begining, and once TB got moved alongside us. If there had been more communication in this last week, then maybe we could have all been together on one plot.- as far as I was aware, it was a move made by Claire after she got a cancellation from Rogue? Did you ever get any explanation as to why she said the stuff about the debris? To be honest, if she's screwed up any possible relationship between IMOC and TB she's got a lot to answer for IMO.- I really hope that TB might communicate with us in organising JAE 2007 so that TB can have a separate plot to maintain its identity without getting passed pillar to post by the organisers.... If we all communicate with each other then we all stand a better chance of getting that (assuming that's what TB want?).MegatronUK wrote:
What was quite telling was the fact that when Nik and Paul put up a small sign on the edge of the IMOC/MK1/MR2OC pitch advising those looking for Twobrutal of the new location
.. I saw it on Sat, but hadn't realised it had gone... Don't know who did it 
- I had to say I noticed the MR2 area's easily had enough space to cater for a few clubs - let alone just our small group.- good to feel like your in the school playground again!! Although I'm sure the wind just carried it away.- hope the CV joints are ok - scooped a bargain there!!MegatronUK wrote:I also find particulary amusing the attitude of some IMOC people about the
Nice attitude towards your members; remember that the vast majority of the TB club are also in IMOC, mk1 club or MR2OC.
Can I just clarify that MR2ROC and the MR2OC are totally different clubs... Do you really think the IMOC committee would be so petty? What exactly would we have to gain?- please come and find me and talk to me next time, i'm actually a very fair person, and would like to see the mr2 community work together rather than against./ getting frustrated at the assumptions being made here.... as a member of IMOC committee you are basically accusing me of acting like some petty moron who has something against TB or something to prove - NEITHER IS TRUE, and it's not true of any other committee members. When you're ready to talk and collaborate, pm me MegatronUK wrote:Well, this message will probably not be very nice for people on here to read but I'm going to go ahead anyway.
Not enough space? The IMOC pitch on saturday had more space
I also find particulary amusing the attitude of some IMOC people about the
Nice attitude towards your members; remember that the vast majority of the TB club are also in IMOC, mk1 club or MR2OC.
What was quite telling was the fact that when Nik and Paul put up a small sign on the edge of the IMOC/MK1/MR2OC pitch advising those looking for Twobrutal of the new location
I fully expect this message to be either deleted or dismissed out of hand with a load of excuses, but at least we've now seen the true colours of certain individuals within the club.
BTW, Thanks to the mk1club members and those few from imoc/mr2oc who came over during the weekend and later on in the evenings and stopped around for drinks and big-screen playstation games.
Sorry mate. Nothing bad. Infact the only bad stuff I have heard is your conspiracy theory crapola, along with someone else blaming The 3 above clubs for being moved the first time. Perhaps that was you too? Cant remember for sure. Can we help it if in the last minute people decide not to come , for whatever reason, thus leaving us with more room. At our busiest point we were filling up our plot. We paid for a large plot. Most of it got taken away and then TB got moved on to our remainder too. Did the Village club have any probs? NO. we asked how TB wanted to play things. Join in or have that area to yourselves. Paul will tell you how we asked how TB wanted to play things. Your post gives me negative feeling towards TB in general. Not a great way to represent a club. It was the only club I regretted not getting a chance to visit. Don't feel that way now. That post really got my back up.Parts For Sale: KAAZ diff:http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=115584 HKS Fuel Rail:http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=115585 50mm Wastegate:http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=115586Sponge Bob wrote:Peter
=D> 'village' situation, whilst it's great to get all the MR2 variants together in 1 place from a social point of view, the inherent danger is that an extremely large 1 car gathering will be pushed into the outer boundries of the showground as it lacks the diverse variety of Japanese cars that event organisers want visitors to experience as they walk around the 'busy' areas, hence reducing IMHO the profile of the car. It happens to the Scoobies already!Pete J wrote:Sponge Bob wrote:Peter
I was grabing them on behalf of a friend who is desperate to get his MR2 back on the road, so thank you very much for getting them to me despite the lack of any reward for yourself
