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Is there such as thing?

I don't mean a mk1 with a tubby engine, or twin chargers (Toni!) or V6 (Paul!) or V8 (dude in the states).

For us mk2 turbos, internals and a fat turbo gives you big power.

Can you get a more powerful bolt on superchargers? Or maybe a different type of supercharger?

No reason, I'm just interested.
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Yes of course if you have piles of cash there is this:

click here
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:shock:

woow! :twisted:
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Rowdan wrote:Yes of course if you have piles of cash there is this:

click here


:shock: fap fap fapping gorgeous :D
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That looks great but i bet it costs a fortune!
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Post by pistol supercharged pete »

hoole peoples

okay i cannot keep stum any more

well now you come to metion it luke

there is a big power mk1 in building at the mo

MINE:):):)

yep thats right i was gonna keep it quite after the head gasket went but just cannot anymore
i am going big power
i.e 5K going into the engine alone let alone the interior custom suspension and brakes
and the stereo
i haeva full spec list we are aiming around 240+
i know lauren will come up and say no no no it won;'t be done etc but lets just wait and see
keewp the spec ist quite till its compltetd as we keep changing stuff to make it stronger and quicker but it will still be a 4agze and it iwll stil be supercharged may not be 1600 anymore
as i get pics i will put them up but here is it out as starters
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i do not think there is one piece internally staying the same
i shall leave you thinking about it
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keep it going ,Pete! i'm sure it will be worth it in the end.
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ha ha go for it pistol pete
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no
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Hopefully Pete will be the first sc to get into megga bhp :lol:
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Hi pete its always good to see big power mk1's being built but i really cant understand why this route? you are spending £5k on the engine alone? for 240bhp? for heavens sake why? if you drop a rev 3 3s-gte straight into the back of that mk1 it will make 245bhp in totally standard form...that will cost around £2k maximum,now throw your spare 3 grand at it and 400bhp is well within reach and to top it off reliably too......im not wishing to sound negative but if you tune a 4a-gze to 240bhp it will no longer maintain reliability over the years...no highly tuned engine ever does.

Dont get me wrong i love the sound of what you are doing,i think its absolutely great! but i cant for the life of me understand why throw so much money at the 4a when theres a much cheaper alternative that will produce buckets more power twice as reliably? good luck though mate,looking forward to seeing this one!
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Jon Bradley wrote:hold on, the last i heard was that you were thinking of getting rid of the SC because the insurance was so much.....?
Or is this a big plan to keep the car off the road until you are a year older so more companies will insure you!??


I will reply on Pete's behalf but i and the mk1 club ,managed to get him a good qoute!
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Paul Woods wrote:Hi pete its always good to see big power mk1's being built but i really cant understand why this route? you are spending £5k on the engine alone? for 240bhp? for heavens sake why? if you drop a rev 3 3s-gte straight into the back of that mk1 it will make 245bhp in totally standard form...that will cost around £2k maximum,now throw your spare 3 grand at it and 400bhp is well within reach and to top it off reliably too......im not wishing to sound negative but if you tune a 4a-gze to 240bhp it will no longer maintain reliability over the years...no highly tuned engine ever does.

Dont get me wrong i love the sound of what you are doing,i think its absolutely great! but i cant for the life of me understand why throw so much money at the 4a when theres a much cheaper alternative that will produce buckets more power twice as reliably? good luck though mate,looking forward to seeing this one!


This will be a great car and will still be run by an sc
,Thats what i think anyway!!
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This will be a great car and will still be run by an sc


Nobodies doubting that for a second steve,but if the efforts and money were redirected to a 3s-gte it would be so much more powerful and reliable.Id hate to spend £5k on 4a for it to be obliterated by a 3s powered car at half the cost,Thats what i think anyway!!

Should be stonking regardless.
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hi paul
yeah i do know what you are saying about getting the 3gste engine in it etc adn i did think seriously doing it
but i just want to see what can be done with the 4a and it will be the only one like it
as the turbo mk1 is starting to pop up all over the place now - no offence- i just wanna be a bit different
i am really looking foward to want can be done adn the builder likes it as it is something defferent to do
so fingers crossed i know it is a lot of hassle and can be got a lot easier but just like i say its differnent and want to keep the sc althought it may grow in size later on in the year
the 3sgte engine wil be going in the mk1 i have in the garage
have fun
howz the V6
also in your turbo what power was it running and what 0-60 were you getting and quater mile
we were just wondering in coparison to mine and the builder is interested in it
also some helpfull info for ya
the sc gearbox id the same as gt4 box except ewhere the transfer box would be there is a blanking plate so if ya were askef to do a 2 wheel drive gt4 it is possible to get the blaking plate from the sc box

also on the build reliablitiy is a number one on how strong the engine will be hence why all parts are hks etc etc
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yeah again paul to your last post it should be stonking
and there will be a 3sgte in my drive way whe the house has been comleted owned by the missus i just wanna keep some orginalty so i can say i was one of probly a very few handful:)
although i did not do the work myself cos i stupid like that
but will get a oil change every 3000 miles adn carefully monitoured
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Paul Woods wrote:Hi pete its always good to see big power mk1's being built but i really cant understand why this route? you are spending £5k on the engine alone? for 240bhp? for heavens sake why? if you drop a rev 3 3s-gte straight into the back of that mk1 it will make 245bhp in totally standard form...that will cost around £2k maximum,now throw your spare 3 grand at it and 400bhp is well within reach and to top it off reliably too......im not wishing to sound negative but if you tune a 4a-gze to 240bhp it will no longer maintain reliability over the years...no highly tuned engine ever does.

Dont get me wrong i love the sound of what you are doing,i think its absolutely great! but i cant for the life of me understand why throw so much money at the 4a when theres a much cheaper alternative that will produce buckets more power twice as reliably? good luck though mate,looking forward to seeing this one!


I admit what you are doing to mk1's is great! but
as Pete is going for the SC route, i feel it will be great for someone to go for the sc !It might be expensive but will be worth it!..He will be one of the first,if not the first!

Megga car!!!And still an sc!
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hi pete,thats fair comment,doing it differently is what its all about....hats off to you sir,cant wait to see it,didnt wish to sound like i was condemning it or anything,just as you know you can tune the 3s further and more reliably.

Thanks for the info on the blanking plate,however it wouldnt work because the transfer box would turn in the wrong direction to drive the front wheels of a mk1,it would need a special diff up front to rectify that...but thats the least of the problems building a 4wd mk1....fuel tank would need relocating,front shockers would need altering to allow a driveshaft to locate,loads of chassis mods to allow a front diff to be mounted,just a non starter really.

My old mk1 turbo was running just short of 280bhp,had a 0-60 of 4.5 seconds,a top end of 162mph.....no idea on 1/4 mile as i never got the chance to throw it up the strip....id estimate low 12's.

Good luck with the build,pictures needed!!!
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okay paul cheers for that
theres the next project a 4wd mk1 :) thats cool

wanna see how close i can get my car to your
obviously we are not sure of end bhp etc as it is a bit of a unknown will email you spec list so far

and will send ya loads of rebuild pics have no fear if ya want me to

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Well i guess I did have the quickest known SC with my late spec engine with all the bits on it plus a stripped out shell, so no doubt my power to weight was as good as I could get it. There is an issue with the SC though, you can't just keep upping the boost so to speak because the roots type blower turns into a hairdryer at anything over 10psi, so you find you get to a certain point (mine was 182bhp) and you just can't generate much more without ditching the stock SC for something different which is a lot of work, or throwing the SC all together and putting a turbo on.

Hee, heee, Pete. Seriously i'd love to see you with 240bhp, but you will never do it with the roots type supercharger, you will need a twin screw or maybe a vortech type one which is like a belt driven turbo.

If you are going to use a different SC what one are you thinking of?

What CC are you looking to acheive? And what pistons will you use?
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