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Anybody fancy learning to DRIFT

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Either in your MR2 (hard but not impossible) or in a supplied MX5.

Courses normally at Silverstone or Brands Hatch.

I'm going, wondered if I could get 10 of us together for a bit of a GP discount.

Cost is likely to be £200 if you use your car, £300 if you use theirs (PRIOR TO ANY NEGOTIATED DISCOUNT). Yes pricey but you learn to:

Braking Drift
By trail braking into a corner weight is over the front wheels inducing loss of grip at the rear. This is then balanced through low to medium speed turns with the accelerator and steering.


Choku-Dori (Swaying Drift)
This is a slow side-to-side feint like drift where the rear end sways back and forth down a straight.


Clutch Kick
Dipping the clutch pedal and releasing it suddenly (hence the kick) on approach to a corner or used mid-drift provides a sudden burst of power losing rear traction.


Dirt Drop Drift
Dropping the rear tyres off the track into the dirt to maintain the drift and carry speed into the next turn.


E-Brake/Handbrake Drift
Pulling the handbrake to lock the rear wheels and lose traction before balancing the drift with steering and the accelerator. Using the hand brake is one of the basic methods to get used to low speed sideways car control.


Feint Drift
Flicking the car to the outside of the corner before turning into the corner carries the weight of the car to the outside of the turn allowing the drift to begin. This is known as a Scandinavian Flick in rallying where it is widely used.


Heel and Toe
Drifting is about balance and smoothness. Making your gear changes as smooth as possible means you can concentrate on correct steering and braking rather than a clumsy gear shift upsetting the balance.


Jump Drift
This involves bouncing the inside wheel over the kerbing to shift the weight over to the opposite side, inducing oversteer.


Kansei Drift (Lift-off oversteer)
The foot is lifted off the throttle when entering a high speed corner resulting in a weight shift to the front to induce a mild oversteer which is then balanced with the steering and accelerator.


Long Slide Drift
Carried out at high speed, pulling the handbrake allows a high drift angle to be accomplished on the straight to carry though the turn.


Power Over (Power oversteer)
Using full throttle on entry to a corner can invoke oversteer on the exit. This is a very basic technique and cannot be considered as drifting if used in isolation.


Shift Lock Drift
Allowing the revs to fall on a downshift before releasing the clutch slows the drivetrain down and induces oversteer.

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Ouch!
Do they do student discount? [-o<

Sounds like good fun, but tis a lot of money! (:( )
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I have seen this on the silverstone site or something

Sounds really good apart from the price, plus the fact that the MK1 would be crap at this.

It would be great if i had a reasonably powered front engined rear wheel drive car (would not want to drive their MX5 tho') Thats what puts me off driving their cars :(

Ah well - I will have to start a crap 'MK1 Drift Club' then, but i expect we would have underpowered spins rather than drifting! LOL :mrgreen:

I really need to win the lottery or have huge pay rise to buy myself a skyline, sylvia (spelling?) or RX7 to really have fun
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I am hoping they might do us a club discount day, I've made an enquiry.

If people are interested 'in principal' I will pursue it and see if we can't make it cheaper - they do also do half days for less money.

It includes:

Level 1 (Novice) Drifting Course Features

Suitable for novices and experienced drivers
Lots of driving time
Learn in our cars or yours (at selected venues)
One-to-one instruction
Live in-car video feed & DVD of your day (selected events)
Refreshments provided
Drift Competition with prizes at every event

I've heard nothing but good stories about the course on driftworks, so think its time to get in some tuition!
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I'd love to do this, but its too expensive for me, I suppose the price itself isn't so bad considering what a track day costs with an hours worth of on track tuition.

Again I couldn't do this in my car as its severly underpowered, anyone who came out with me at anglesey will know I was stomping on the gas in 2nd gear to get the back end out but with no luck at all.... can i join the mk1 drift club :mrgreen: [-o<

P.s How much is a half day??
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Toni - are the MX5's any good for driftin tho'?
Thats what sounds slightly off putting. Driftworks have ace cars - what do they say about MX5's?
A 200sx would be cheap and more tempting....

(maybe thats what i should buy/afford! LOL)
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With an LSD MX5s are GREAT cars for drifting - better with a bit more power mind. Wouldn't let that put you off at all.

Half days:


An introduction to drifting. Suitable for someone who wants to try out drifting and get a feel for some of the skills used. Our Instructors will spend time with you in and out of the car, explaining the techniques and allowing you to practise them. Held on a tarmac surface with nothing to hit. Courses are marked out with cones which do not cause any significant damage if hit. You will receive detailed information, directions and a course schedule via e-mail a few days before the event. This event is restricted to a limited number places to ensure maximum practise time for each driver.

Course includes:
Preparing your car for drifting
Understanding weight transfer and why it's important in drifting
How to break traction and then control it
Transitioning between drifts

£125 your car, £175 their car.
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This sounds like great fun. Apart from the difficulty of getting a '2 to drift without spinning, how much tyre wrecking is it likely to cause? Would be a nice opportunity to get a feel for the car on the limit.

Is this likely to be a weekday or weekend thing? (and will that affect the price?)

thanks,

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I'd say it's likely to be a weekday - they've indicated they might do a discount for ten with payment up front am just waiting on prices.
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mr2mk1chick wrote:Toni - are the MX5's any good for driftin tho'?
Thats what sounds slightly off putting. Driftworks have ace cars - what do they say about MX5's?
A 200sx would be cheap and more tempting....

(maybe thats what i should buy/afford! LOL)


MX5 is supposed to be one of the great cars to learn on. Good overall balance and weight distribution. Plus quite good to get control over apparently.

You can drift most things if you learn. Lauren used to drift her mk1. MR2's are supposed to be one of the hardest to learn because of the layout etc... But would be sweet to master!!

I would LOVE to do this course! Judging from Anglesey i need some practice in sideways motion :D Quite far away from me tho so would have to stay somewhere which means price would be even higher.... Will watch this thred and see what happens.

Good idea tho Toni!
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Drifting is certainly a different skill to master rather than going round a circuit very fast...balance and control being the primary lessons. Plus I really want to learn to clutch kick/handbrake drift :D
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You going to do it in your tubby Toni? Should be good fun! I think with the n/a you'll really have to throw the weight around and get full use of the handbrake.

Any more news on the prices?
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I have a drift car :wink: So unlikey to take tubby...do want to learn to do tubby drifting but think a front engined RWD will be easier to learn in!

Nope still waiting on prices.
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mr2mk1chick wrote:A 200sx would be cheap and more tempting....

:wink:

The MR2 isn't really conducive to drifting - the M/R layout means they just want to grip because the weight of the engine is more above the rear driving wheels. I always found with my old Mk1 MR2 that learning to control the tank slap was a better skill to learn than trying to hold a powerslide, because they don't really do the powerslide thing all that well #-o.

I've got an S14 200SX, which is really easy to drift because there is no real weight over the back wheels and an LSD. I've also got a Starion, which has a F/R layout and an LSD, but the weight distribution is almost 50/50 and the wheelbase is a lot shorter than the 200SX, so it is a lot harder to keep the rear end hanging out.
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Re: Anybody fancy learning to DRIFT

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I'm interested in principle, half day in their MX5 sounds fun.
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Yeah, sounds like an ideal way to spend a day!!

Count me in :)
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Dependant on Date - I'm in.


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I do like the sound of this, now more good comments about the MX5.
depends on the price really
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