Home clutch change edit: MR2 specialists for clutch change in scotland?

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Home clutch change edit: MR2 specialists for clutch change in scotland?

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Thinking of attempting it myself with the aid of a mechanic mate.

I'd like to know what tools and accessories are needed for doing a street/driveway clutch change?

What sort of axle stands(how high does the car need to be?), specialist tools etc?

It will be an NA MR2, I've read a few guides but most are for turbos, is there much difference?

Share your experiences too if you like.

Cheers.
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easy peasey.

normal stands, don't remove the subframe, don't remove the exhaust.

Remove slave cylinder from engine, then cable tie to car so you don't have to bleed the clutch.

You'll find jamming something like a chock of wood between the inlet manifold and boot/bulkhead will stop the engine moving to the back of the car whilst on one engine mount, if it does move, you'll battle getting the box back on.

Get stuck in. If you have troubles feel free to call me :thumleft:
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Nice, I appreciate the advice and number! :thumleft:

Still, apart from basic tools, spanners, sockets etc what else will be required?

And how high must the car be, must the front be raised too??

Just trying to get an idea before I decide to truly take upon this task. :D

Cheers again. :)
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as far as I remember, the car must be high enough so you can fit under it with the box on your stomach to lift it :)
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Hmm cool, these should be alright yeah? http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/produ ... xle-stands

Also, I was recommended to change the 'transmission seals or 'gear box' seals??' Some sort of Oil seal I think, does anyone know what I'm talking about?? How much they are and is it easy to fit them or alot of extra work?

Cheers. :)
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cvega666 wrote:as far as I remember, the car must be high enough so you can fit under it with the box on your stomach to lift it :)


But no so high that you wind yourself on removal :lol:

For removal at least I prefer an old brake disc sat on top of a hydraulic jack. The center bore in the MR2 disc is just large enough to fit over the end of a small hydraulic jack, holding the gbox nice and steady on top of the disc.

Providing you have no gbox oil leaks currently, then just the seals where the driveshafts meet the gbox are a good idea to replace (probably £20ish for the pair at a guess?), and add about 2 minutes to the job.

Only replace other seals if your leaking oil from them already.
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frogger wrote:
cvega666 wrote:as far as I remember, the car must be high enough so you can fit under it with the box on your stomach to lift it :)


But no so high that you wind yourself on removal :lol:

For removal at least I prefer an old brake disc sat on top of a hydraulic jack. The center bore in the MR2 disc is just large enough to fit over the end of a small hydraulic jack, holding the gbox nice and steady on top of the disc.

Providing you have no gbox oil leaks currently, then just the seals where the driveshafts meet the gbox are a good idea to replace (probably £20ish for the pair at a guess?), and add about 2 minutes to the job.

Only replace other seals if your leaking oil from them already.


Do the gearbox seals stop external oil from getting into the clutch area??? I think that's why I would need them as I'm sure the clutch may be duffed due to oil contamination.(Yes, working on solving this oil leak also)

Also still, what others tools will I need other than basic socket/spanner set?? some guides mention some specialist tools but I'm not sure if they're essential.

Cheers guys. :D
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Post by dai21t »

Crank oil seal could be leaking, or the clutch could just be shot due to normal wear and tear. May have missed it in your posts but clutch alignment tool makes life easier as well for reassembly. It's not a hard job, easier on Tue na simply due to the lighter gearbox, less weight to move around! Good luck anyway.
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TheBaker wrote:
frogger wrote:
cvega666 wrote:as far as I remember, the car must be high enough so you can fit under it with the box on your stomach to lift it :)


But no so high that you wind yourself on removal :lol:

For removal at least I prefer an old brake disc sat on top of a hydraulic jack. The center bore in the MR2 disc is just large enough to fit over the end of a small hydraulic jack, holding the gbox nice and steady on top of the disc.

Providing you have no gbox oil leaks currently, then just the seals where the driveshafts meet the gbox are a good idea to replace (probably £20ish for the pair at a guess?), and add about 2 minutes to the job.

Only replace other seals if your leaking oil from them already.


Do the gearbox seals stop external oil from getting into the clutch area??? I think that's why I would need them as I'm sure the clutch may be duffed due to oil contamination.(Yes, working on solving this oil leak also)

Also still, what others tools will I need other than basic socket/spanner set?? some guides mention some specialist tools but I'm not sure if they're essential.

Cheers guys. :D


This is what I meant by "replace other seals if your leaking oil from them already".

Certainly if you're already leaking oil (e.g. from crank seal) then you need to do that at the same time. The other driveshaft seals I mentioned are the only ones that are sometimes considered 'consumables' which you replace as a matter of course when reassembling - but I've done several without replacing with no issues, only one where I had a leak from one of these seals afterwards. It probably depends more on how careful you are not to damage them in the first place rather than whether you replace them or not.

No really specialist tools come to mind. I always get pi$$ed off with clutch alignment tools and end up doing it by eye lol, too fiddley for me.

A good range of sockets, jack, axle stands, that'll see you most the way.

EDIT: What a strange swear filter. Is it really that much of a censorship to replace the double 'ss' in the phrase pi$$ed off with $$ dollar signs? Come to think of it is there anything that wrong with the phrase pi$$ed off anyway? feckin strange...
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Cheers for your help guys, with advice from my mechanic mate I'm probably not going to attempt this even with his help as he says it will be a nightmare and he's scared me off of it, probably for the best though. :lol:

Does anyone know any MR2 clutch specialists in Edinburgh or nearish by with prices similar to (ever so helpful :thumleft: ), cheers Pacific works?

Got a friendly private mechanic who says he'll do it for 150 but can't get through to him and he's never done an MR2 clutch before either. :?

Thanks. :)
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closest one i know to scotland is gts chris in newcastle
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Not frm that way - but this might help...

http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic. ... nd#p369820
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http://www.the-garage.co.uk/

These guys are pretty decent, through in Motherwell.
Not super cheap, but you get what you pay for.
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Hmm cheers guys. :)

Anyway, just really need to know now what seals I should get.

I can't really afford to do anything that doesn't need to be done.(ie driveshaft seals)

On MR2OC.com I saw a few saying to replace the 'rear main seal'? What's that?

Frogger: Is there anyway to tell if the gearbox seals is leaking oil without opening it up?

Not that'd it'd be an easy to task to tell anyway since there is Oil all over the Engine/Gearbox. :oops:

Cheers.
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Looking from underneath you should clearly be able to see where the gbox joins the engine - at this point you will see the curve of the lower flywheel cover.

If you have oil leaking from this point (out of the cover) then an oil seal is in need of replacement - you are correct, its hard to tell at this point whether the oil is from the gbox or the engine, it's much more common to be leaking from the engine side (and this would be the main seal that you've been referring too above).

It depends how much it is leaking, but one way to tell whether its engine or gbox oil is by monitoring the oil level of the engine (or gbox), though other factors (if they exist) such as other leaks and excessive oil blowing by your piston rings may make this type of monitoring harder!

Diagnosing 100% without gbox removal can be difficult. Other oil leaks can be spun around by the driveshafts/air currents and cover everything meaning a full clean up is required before monitoring.

BUT it's really likely that it's the main seal - especially if you have clutch plate oil contamination
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Hi.

My name is Calum, been on the MR2 scene since about 2004. Worked on Mk1's helping do V6 conversions, Mk2 Tubby's and N/A's carry out work from as simple as a service to engine transplants and V6 Conversions. Even done a little engine swapping on Mk3!! Mainly a member over on MR2oc but been a member on Imoc just not very active.

I Live just outside Edinburgh near the Airport and have over the years worked on many Scottish members Cars including Mikee66, Larry93, The Wraith, Shibby, Welsha, Ripley and Fimmo and many others.

I am to trade a Agricultural Engineer but currently work for a Company wworking as a mobile engineer working on Road Sweepers and Gritters (ssssssshtttt, don't say that - its too close to winter!!!!!) but as a Hobbie i like to dabble in fixing cars.

I have a 2poster ramp and would be happy to Change the Clutch for you. PM me your number and i can give you a call and take things from there.

Cheers Calum

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so thats what your user name is lol

you done mines too lol
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