are spigot rings important?

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chrisrev2gt
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are spigot rings important?

Post by chrisrev2gt »

hi guys just got some new wheels but they didnt come with spigot ring are these important? and what do they do??? :thumleft:
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you only need them if the hub is a different size.paul.
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Re: are spigot rings important?

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I currently have wheels that're located on the hubs just using the bolts.
Haven't had any problems yet but, TBH, I'm not really comfortable with it so I'm getting some aluminium spigot rings made up to suit.
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Re: are spigot rings important?

Post by Rosssco »

They are not critical, but are used to ensure you're wheel is properly centered on the hub, because if its not, you can experience wheel vibration, slight handling issues, maybe uneven tyre wear in extreme cases...

I've used wheels without them before with no issues, just depends how 'lucky' you are when fitting them.. Try rotating the wheel when tightening up the wheel nuts, this should help center the wheel on the hub, but TBH, spigot rings are pretty cheap off Ebay etc. so don't see a reason why you can't pop a set on. They tend to come in generic O.D. sizes, e.g. 73.1mm for most japanese aftermarket wheels...

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Re: are spigot rings important?

Post by Si_Crewe »

Uhuh.

I use copperslip on the wheel-nuts then take care when tightening the nuts.
Basically, I fit one nut finger tight, give the wheel a bit of a jiggle, then do an opposite nut, give the wheel another jiggle and repeat until all 5 nuts are on finger tight before finally tightening them all.
I guess fitting a wheel would be much more "idiot-proof" with spigot rings but I've never had any wheel wobble or anything else so far.
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Re: are spigot rings important?

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yes
iangex
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Re: are spigot rings important?

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Yeah I would, I found my steering felt very wooly until I fitted spigot rings.

Mine cost about £6 on ebay delivered, a real no brainer!
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Re: are spigot rings important?

Post by HighwayStar »

Agreed. No advantage to not having them. They centre the wheel on the hub properly (hence reducing movement and thus vibration) and take a lot of weight off of the wheel nuts themselves which should only be taking lateral load.

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i would have to dissagree with some of the suggestions but agree with the last post,

spiggot rings are imperitive to ensure your not putting any additional strain on the wheel nuts. the weight of the car is in effect on the spiggot ring opposed to the wheel nuts, if (like most after market wheels) you need these rings you should not run the car without them, else a nice sharp jolt can snap your wheel nuts/bolts and cause all sorts of issues.

several members of staff at my old job were given stiff repremands for the sale of wheels without the appropriate spiggots
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phipck wrote:i would have to dissagree with some of the suggestions but agree with the last post,

spiggot rings are imperitive to ensure your not putting any additional strain on the wheel nuts. the weight of the car is in effect on the spiggot ring opposed to the wheel nuts, if (like most after market wheels) you need these rings you should not run the car without them, else a nice sharp jolt can snap your wheel nuts/bolts and cause all sorts of issues.

several members of staff at my old job were given stiff repremands for the sale of wheels without the appropriate spiggots

If the weight of the car is on a tiny plastic ring then we should be quite concerned about it.

The ring is actually only there to ensure the wheel is fitted correctly. Once the wheel is in place the wheel nuts had better be responsible for holding the wheel in position because any impact capable of bending a wheel stud or causing the wheel to move on the hub is sure as hell not gonna be stopped by a poxy bit of plastic.
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Post by HighwayStar »

Incorrect. The spiggot rings do take weight off the wheel nuts which are there for lateral support (holding the wheel 'in' to the hub). The hub should be taking the weight not the wheel nuts and yes this is important. If your wheels have a centre bore greater than 60.1mm you do need spiggot rings.
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thanks guys for the info :thumleft:
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Post by RST »

The wheel nuts / bolts are there to provide connection to the hub. The friction against the surface of the wheel and the hub creates the majority of the mechanical connection -the pre-load on the bolts affords that connection although the bolts take shear loads themselves also (bolts can't take much if any shear load compared to tension).

Get yourself some rings. I've been told they're only of use on the steered wheels -but found that duff info early on. Wheels should be centred where possible from the start.

I'm sure my local factor sells spacers and spigot rings -I had to argue a few times with wheel suppliers who quoted XX fitment but no spigot rings and eventually got them sent -the wheel should be hubcentric for the car from the start they offer it for if you're buying new IMO.
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Re: are spigot rings important?

Post by carlos9999 »

iangex wrote:Yeah I would, I found my steering felt very wooly until I fitted spigot rings.

Mine cost about £6 on ebay delivered, a real no brainer!


ditto.... for £6 why would you not fit them... ](*,)
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