rev1 2 or 3?

[civicamy]

hiya i couldnt find a newbie section but im new to this mr2 stuff but im sure i will start learning very quick,
bought a black k reg glimited import n.a 2 weeks ago and day after i brought it home the engine started to knock....

im not sure what the difference is between a rev 1,2 or 3? could anyone help me as im trying to find a new engine?

and theres a guy on here selling a mk2 na with the rev3 3sge engine? would it be ok in mine?

thanks amy

[HighwayStar]

All engines will fit but you may need to swap wiring looms etc. unless it's the same rev as your car (rev2 I'd guess). If it were me I'd be taking it back where I bought it though...
Hope you get it sorted and welcome to IMOC.

R.

[civicamy]

1 reply? hmmm cheers for the help

i got in contact with the guy i bought it off he said it was fine when i left him, being a private sale i cant really do much.... after owning 5 hondas it was a really xxxx start to owning a toyotas

[planted1]

Amy
im not convinced that the na rev 1 2 or 3 are all that different
rev 4 is,

perhaps someone could confirm or deny this,


steve

[CM1GT]

all revs are different but different things changed each time, sure theres a list of it some where but roughly:

rev 1 - start
rev 2 - handling and cosmetic chages
rev 3 - engine and cosmetic changes
rev 4 - cosmetic changes
rev 5 - handling and cosmetic changes

as for engines rev 1 and 2 are pretty much the same as are rev 3, 4 & 5

easiest way to check your rev is by the cosmetic stuff, rear grill and spoiler and interior, aswell as things like pas, abs and airbags, post a picture and a debate over it will start

[civicamy]

so if my car is the rev 1 ,2 ,3 i shouldnt need the wiring loom?

iv been meaning to take some pictures for the past two weeks but it annoyed me that much i pretty much abandoned it and bought a bus pass... ill try get some pics tonight if it isnt to dark.

[HighwayStar]

Any reason you're not going to take it back from where you bought it from and demand your money back?

[Dale_V]

because its a private sale and was 'sold as seen' , sold in a working condition, to which the buyer was satisfied

[cantfindausername]

Exact same thing happened to a car an ex bought a few years back. You've got no come back if its a private sale.

Try breakeryard.com, I sourced an engine from there and it was sound. Alternatively get a replacement engine from the same revision car. It should be a Rev2 being on a K plate. This should save any disrepancies between the looms.

[civicamy]

ive found the engine of a guy on here for a very good price,its a rev 3 but theres no wiring loom, should it fit with the rev2 wiring loom and ecu?with a bit of tweeking?

[cantfindausername]

you may find there are differences between the ecu's. Speak to the likes of Rogue for quick answer.

[Dale_V]

you will need the loom and ecu

[civicamy]

ok ill have to find someone selling a seperate wiring loom and ecu then

[Martin F]

ok ill have to find someone selling a seperate wiring loom and ecu then

why don't you just wait for the correct engine to come along ?

[civicamy]

yer just been talking to someone and theyve said i need driveshafts etc...so probs gonna have to find a rev 2

[Dale_V]

It's best like you say to just hold out for another rev2 NA engine, and then you can transfer the wiring loom from your old engine etc... saves alot of hassle

[nikaiyo]

I think 3S are breaking a Rev 2 at the mo

[pjeff18]

I could do with a Rev3 engine -I dont suppose you could PM me the sellers details/link could you?

Good luck with rev2 engines, i think there are a few on ebay

[RST]

Yea for a like for like swap you should be able to expect <£150 for a full rev 2 engine and ancilliaries, ecu etc.

If you go rev 3+ then there's some wiring and ECU differences, the engines are different.


(correct me if I'm wrong but just so you know, BEAMS (gen4) are MAF whereas rev 3+ (gen3) is MAP, the rev 1/2 (gen 2) is AFM so each ECU is different but the wiring is very similar)

[planted1]

hey all,

ok,the engine Amy mentions for sale was from me,
its an L plate 3sge,with service history at toyota untill the last two years,
at which time it has been serviced locally by a reputable garage.
I have the service schedule and maintenance book showing cambelt change 17k miles ago at 57964,iirc.

The confusion arises because i thought it was rev 3 , but it appears to have the rev1 rev 2 manifold array,so im assuming it is rev 2.

I drove this car when it came into the yard,before it being hi-ab'd onto my drive,the engine is fine no smoke,no cream,and started 1st time even after two weeks standing.

Im a sucker for a damsel in distress and offered it to Amy for £50+carriage
Carriage charges for an engine are normally £80+vat,as im miles away in devon,
If you can get one closer Amy then that might be more cost efficient,
if not this one is now out and on a pallet,

regards

steve