Does anyone **actually** rate the MR2 mkII N/A???!!!!!!!!!!!

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kanulondon

Does anyone **actually** rate the MR2 mkII N/A???!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by kanulondon »

I just bought the above car (although I have not taken collection as yet)...I'm a newbie to Jap Cars

I am really looking forward to getting this car as it'll be my first mid engined RWD experience. On paper the car looks nippy
with 170 odd BHP and 0-60 in about 8 seconds or less. It will be a big step up from my 88BHP Vauxhall Tigra 1.4 Ecotek :)

Problem is reading through this forum...I see a little bit of contempt for this car....with everyone simply talking about the Turbo.

Does anyone actually like there N/A? Or is it a slow dog as everyone says? I don't want to compare it to the turbo...but rather I'd compare it to other so called 'Hot Hatches'

I'd like people opinions

cheers

KL
Getronics

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Post by Getronics »

They are super cars mate. Plenty of people here will support that! Individual looks, good turn of speed when needed....very reliable.
Compared to your Tigra there would be no comparison (as you probably know) and the rear wheel drive experience is great.
You'll be well pleased.
Have a browse through the garage section....you'll see just how many n/a's there are!
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Post by Dale_V »

Try not to forget that MR2's handle :wink: so have fun on the twistys rather than thinking of straight roads and 0-60's.

They are great cars and for the age of the engine quite fast too, once you get it, you'll notice that theres not much power down the revs, but keep them up and you'll be smiling :D

have a look at my NA <<
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Hi matey..

I've had an NA for the past 9 years (only recently I got mine converted into a Tubby but I digress)...

they are GREAT cars.... don't let anyone say otherwise.. Ok they are not as "powerful" as the Turbo versions - for obvious reasons, but compare them to the usual cars out on the roads of their age they are brilliant. Quite pokey in acceleration as you probably know 7.7 ish or there abouts to 60 is not exactly slow my friend :wink: .. and the power band around 4.5k to 7k RPM is where you will find most torque. :twisted:

I must admit to driving everywhere in that range when the mood took me - rev limiters are there for a reason - might aswell make use of them every so often :lol:

Technically they are more progressive on the acceleration front than a turbo.. you won;t suddlenly get a thump in acceleration like when the turbo kicks in.. you either like this or you don't - it can catch a few tubby owners out !.... I mean in an NA you can put your foot down (smoothly) mid corner and power out safer than in a tubby - which needs more respect.

I guess the reason why most on here rave about the Tubby is that the IMOC site is very much geared up to serious modifications (as you've probably seen) on the power front...
It's not Contempt that people ignore the NA on this site - far from it - people are just posting issues, problems feedback etc etc on their cars - which if I'm honest.. people tend to have more trouble with a Turbo MR2 than an NA - nature of the beast - more things to go wrong - esp when you start aftermarket modificating !

Na's are pretty much bullet proof !.. I had one as I say for over 9 years and not once did it break down, not once did it fail an MOT !

As it's your first RWD car - and a mid engined one at that I'll sign off with the usual but boring warning about treating your new aquisition with a little bit more respect through corners - esp in the wet or damp.

I'm not meaning to sound like a lecturer (just want you to keep your new baby shiney side up ! :tongue: ) but I would say there are not many 2 owners who have not had a BTM (brown trouser moment) when the back end steps out through a corner.. remember it's quite easy for it to let go if you step on the gas mid corner.. so gently is the key and make sure you can get the best tyres you can afford on the back !!

I guarantee you will not look back - great purchase mate and welcome to the club !

cheers
Frank. :thumright:

EDIT - just wanted to point out the BTM usually will only occur in the wet or damp - in the bone dry mate the rear should stick to the tarmac no probs at all... usual things though watch out for damp patches even if it is dry.. it can catch you out (yes I'm talking from experience lol)
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poyntesm

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Post by poyntesm »

Welcome to IMOC.

Do not worry the NA is a great car. Like frank I recently converted mine to a turbo but I loved every minute of my NA ownership. It was so reliable and the power delievery of a NA will make it easier to learn about the handling of a mid engined rear wheel drive car.

Hope it gives you many happy miles..and when it does not post the problem here and one of the guru's will help you out.

Oh head over to http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/garage.php and create your vehicle so what you own is placed in every post.

Regards
Esmond
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Post by jimGTS »

bottom line mate, the NA will still kick most cars as*es off the road!
low to high 7s 0-60 depending on which revision you get.
consider most NEW hot hatch are still only 0-60 in the high 7s, early 8s, and these are brand new 21st century cars!

plus, the mk2 looks great!
ferrair's younger brother id say! (not "baby" ferrari).
Getronics

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Post by Getronics »

This site also caters just as much for standard cars too....if you don't want to modify then it's cool. I love standard cars.......I love modified....it's all up to you.
Welcome BTW and as above...just enjoy yourself. :D
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Post by 832ARK »

Really am very unimpressed with my N/A - is slow and feels like a barge compared to my old CRX VT.

I think tubby really is the way forward - however i cant afford to buy or run one so will be getting a DC2 Integra Type R

Cheers

Alistair
kanulondon

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Post by kanulondon »

Thanks so much all your different views!

I feel happier about getting my NA now...and I will be treating it with respect!

More NA comments are welcome!

KL \:D/
Getronics

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Post by Getronics »

Pop along to one of the events mate....best way to meet other owners and share view tips and thoughts etc etc......
:wink:
craig
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N/A's are fine as long as you don't get the 3SFE :roll:
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The N/A is great

nice engine, good looks, quick enough, I can give my mate a few worries 0-60 in his Celica GT4 !

I have never had any RWD problems, Ive had the rear out once, when driving like a xxxx, but you can drive fairly hard saftley.

There is alot of turbo talk on this forum but they dont cuss N/A's and are very helpful.
Getronics

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Post by Getronics »

They are the less powerful 116bhp IIRC 2 litre engine.
MR2'ing on a budget...although just as reliable etc.
Some don't have a rear spoiler......but as above you can check the engine code.
If I won the the Lotto amongst my many Jap cars I'd have one of each MR2 mk1 k2 mk2 tubby and a mk3. :D
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I had a 3SFE in my car........was changed for a rev 1 Turbo lump :twisted:

3SFE -
0-60 = 9.5 secs
119 BHP

I had mine rolling roaded 102 BHP @ Flywheel LMFAO..

Hello Turbo engine, 262 BHP :twisted: :twisted:
Getronics

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Barney wrote:The N/A is great

nice engine, good looks, quick enough, I can give my mate a few worries 0-60 in his Celica GT4 !

I have never had any RWD problems, Ive had the rear out once, when driving like a twit, but you can drive fairly hard saftley.

There is alot of turbo talk on this forum but they dont cuss N/A's and are very helpful.


GT4's are quite heavy cars with all that stuff such a 4wd etc etc.
you'd have to get the last two generation GT4's to be quicker than an MR2 n/a.........the others are only a fraction/mrginally quicker....not enough to mention really....
Good cars though....
I love my mk1......it keeps up with most cars on the road....if I want it to. :wink:
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Getronics wrote:
Barney wrote:The N/A is great

nice engine, good looks, quick enough, I can give my mate a few worries 0-60 in his Celica GT4 !

I have never had any RWD problems, Ive had the rear out once, when driving like a twit, but you can drive fairly hard saftley.

There is alot of turbo talk on this forum but they dont cuss N/A's and are very helpful.


GT4's are quite heavy cars with all that stuff such a 4wd etc etc.
you'd have to get the last two generation GT4's to be quicker than an MR2 n/a.........the others are only a fraction/mrginally quicker....not enough to mention really....
Good cars though....
I love my mk1......it keeps up with most cars on the road....if I want it to. :wink:


Makes me smile, my little MR2 N/A pushing his 250 bhp Turbo WRC GT4 !!! Although top speed hes gone ! He has spun his and hes got 4WD !
Getronics

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RedMR² wrote:I had a 3SFE in my car........was changed for a rev 1 Turbo lump :twisted:

3SFE -
0-60 = 9.5 secs
119 BHP

I had mine rolling roaded 102 BHP @ Flywheel LMFAO..

Hello Turbo engine, 262 BHP :twisted: :twisted:


lol.....it's for the economist of MR2 owners. Women...2nd car.....the wifes car.....has the looks though... :D
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That explains why I kept up with an old GT4 :D in the wet :shock: lol. you realise its time to hold back when you start fishtailing 8-[ #-o
kanulondon

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Post by kanulondon »

Hi All,

Thanks again for more comments. Keep them coming

As it's the NA I don't see the need to heavily modify.......I'll just keep in standard.

Was thinking about an Air Filter....but more than often I have found them to result in hot engines and flat spots. That's the trade off for the sound I guess.

I may not bother....any opinions.

I don't think you guys cuss the NA as such. It seems to be getting quite a bit of respect too :)

I am really really looking forward to getting it now

KL
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Post by CosmosblueMR2 »

kanulondon wrote:Hi All,

Thanks again for more comments. Keep them coming

As it's the NA I don't see the need to heavily modify.......I'll just keep in standard.

Was thinking about an Air Filter....but more than often I have found them to result in hot engines and flat spots. That's the trade off for the sound I guess.

I may not bother....any opinions.

I don't think you guys cuss the NA as such. It seems to be getting quite a bit of respect too :)

I am really really looking forward to getting it now

KL



Power wise yes there is not a lot you can do without changing the internals .. but an induction kit and a decatted sports exhaust will give you a few more horses.. FYI my rev5 went from 168 to 179bhp with those two very mods.. so so ya know :wink:

Oh and if you want to upgrade the suspension / handling then you really will notice the difference - and driving through the twisties will be even more fun.... so many people just think about modding as a power thing - what's the old saying "power is nothing without control" :mrgreen:

standard is what I had for 7 of those 9 years as an NA - but eventually the modding bug does bite ! (in one way or another :tongue: )

cheers
Frank.
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