Cosmos Blue Beams PG11 - For Sale...?

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Re: Cosmos Blue Beams PG11 - For Sale...?

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Found these today and thought you would be interested:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JDM-STYLE-NUM ... 27b7d1de18

They seem to sell a few different varieties and I would be amazed if you couldn't make them agree to printing up a set with the original vehicle reg on :thumleft:
Selling up my highly modified and restored Rev 1 V6 3.0 1MZ-FE VVTi

http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=176156
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They don't seem to offer custom writing :(

Been on holiday etc a lot recently, but did manage to get this from Magic Beans!

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Co-ordination 8) 8) 8)

Also... I completed my degree in architecture and have been awarded a 2:1. So I rewarded myself... And bought a supercharger...
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Blends pretty damn well 8)

Congratulations of the results :clap:

Do you have a plan for that supercharger of yours then? :wink:
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No no, no plans at all for that...
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Nice and subtle mate. Looks good. :thumleft:
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I would eat my food out of my throttle body now :D

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Any guesses?
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Supercharger with inline chargecooler ?
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Gone and got what looks like a rotrex. Interesting to watch this. Angelo in Aus went that way, I couldn't get Rotrex UK interested in supplying parts at all.
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This is Angelo's old setup.

Initial plans are 7psi redline progressive boost setup, retaining stock high compression. Should see something in the region of 250-260hp and of course no lag. If that all goes to plan one day I can forge the rods and pistons and run 15.5psi without any difficulty. If I took it further (Angelo runs 26psi) I'd have to swap out the S54 for an E153 amongst other huge ball aches!
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Interesting approach. Certainly good to see a break from the traditional. It will certainly make for an interesting project, both to install and read about.
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And will be much more my style to drive!

Frankly I do not see the appeal of a boost kick in a car as snappy as an SW20, but the Rotrex gives a progressive build of boost instead. That should translate to a hugely more drivable machine even at increased boost levels. Paul Woods asked me 'why not start with a 3SGTE?' Which is, of course, a sensible idea. However, for me it is about complimenting the beams. The torquey vvti technology is so much more fun to drive than a gen3 3SGE, but the Rotrex will elevate the power delivery to truly unique IMO.

Protok's build gave him low-rpm boost from a turbo. Interesting but, for me, not as faithful to the beams experience.
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I think you're following the right path. :)

Boost kick can be controlled by modern ECUs such as the Syvecs and it's Rolling Boost Builder. For me it's nice having all that power, however it's the delivery which defines the driver experience. A huge kick is fun initially but it stops being fun when it affects you're ability to put that power to the road and go (stay) in a straight line. A Syvecs is on my shopping list currently, depending where things go over the next few months.

Is you don't need (want) massive power then the Rotrex approach looks great. I'd be very interested to see the results.
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LoL, so what's Angelo running now? I lost the plot with him when he started his manic "OEM not good enough, money no object" phase.

If you want an ECU recommendation I can recommend Link. I ran the G3 XLEM on mine for a year while I procrastinated about going ITB's but I sold them to Protok in the end and sold my beams. I would have thought you'd see better than 230Bhp, mine was making just a smidgeon under 220Bhp at the wheels on the Mustang dyno before Race Shack closed. Only person I know / recoomend was Lyndon though and I think mine was either his last car or near enough. Have you been speaking with Patrick Mortell, they built an awesom turbo'd beams a few years back? I think the owner is a member on here.

I think whatever you do keep the beams characteristics. It was so much fun in a mildly tuned state. Absolutely loves the revs but still drives OK at lower revs. I almost prefer it to the 3SGTE.
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RST wrote:Only person I know / recoomend was Lyndon though and I think mine was either his last car or near enough.

Whatever you do, do not go to Lyndon.
Half wired, messed up sensors and a map which had the engine running only off sheer luck. That and 2nd day of driving it and the damned crank sensor wiring fell off!

He may have been a good mapper when Rich had it done but I wouldn't go to him now if you paid me.
I wish I'd known that then as I'd be £2250 richer!



Also a little side note, doesn't matter if it's a beams or not. You build the car/engine you want; not try preserve characteristics. With the technology available today you can pretty much build whatever you want. The VVTi is great, a valuable asset to any engine especially a boosted one as it can be used as a more efficient way of retarding timing.

Either way; these engines are now at the age that no matter what you do, it won't be anything new. There was even a HKS Twincharger kit for the Beams engine.
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Thought the exhaust was looking good today when I rolled up (in another car :( )

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Work needing done on the car - running strangely - so replacing COP leads, sparks, rocker gasket, spark well gaskets an cleaning out the head in most areas! Dislike the oiliness in some spark wells and COP leads are "for life" but I feel compelled to replace 15yo electrical bits. Also doing fuel filter for good measure. Then I've got camber bolts to fit soon and a corresponding wheel alignment - but not until I get some polybushes arms on!
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Whatever you do, do not go to Lyndon.
Half wired, messed up sensors and a map which had the engine running only off sheer luck. That and 2nd day of driving it and the damned crank sensor wiring fell off!

He may have been a good mapper when Rich had it done but I wouldn't go to him now if you paid me.
I wish I'd known that then as I'd be £2250 richer!


Hey Red, long time no speak! Surprises me but allot of things change I guess. Your experience sounds like mine of Dastek so fair enough.

Back OT:

I remember the COP wiring being a mess on my Aristo -supposed to be common with 2JZS GTE's as there's lots of heat under the plastic cover, I remember at the time buying new clips and fittings from Whiffbits for mine which made a big difference rather than replacing the complete set-up. Not sure if the same is available for the 4th gen 3SGE but cheper than new COP packs. It's all LV wiring which makes working with it easier I guess.
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Well, the beams had its head examined!

COP leads replaced, rocker gasket and spark wells gaskets replaced, as well as good-measure gearbox oil replacement and fuel filter replacement. It now runs like a charm again, no more misfiring or cutting out. Who knows if it was the spark arcing across the oil that had wept into the cylinders, or one of the COP leads gone... Doesn't matter, it's fixed up now! :D

Strangely my CEL is still on, and it's still throwing codes 34 and 41. These pertain to the ISCV and TPS it would seem, so that's the next job...
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34 and 41 ....

http://www.troublecodes.net/Toyota/

(ignore the post 96 comment).

If thats any help. Good news on it running better anyway!
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I just don't get how it can be turbo pressure signal.
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