Most Impressive Wins

[Mattc1981]

should this post not be renamed who has the biggest willy

[The TVIS Kid]

The standard mk1 weights in about 1000kgs witha t-bar being 50kgs more. They only produce around 122bhp so without any stripping of weight they have around 120bhp per ton.

No they don't. With no fuel a mk1a na is 1030kgs by my local weighbridge a b is around 1050 and a t-bar a bit more.

SCs on the other hand 1160kgs with no fuel!

So power to weight is not near 122bhp per tonne.

ok so its about 110-115bhp per ton. Thats not really that far off my 120bhp per ton is it?

[WeirdNeville]

I was keeping in touch with an enthusiastically driven 300bhp Audi S3 and a 350Bhp Impreza last weekend.

no you didn't. Unless "keeping in touch" means you could see them in the distance,or they simply weren't trying.

Why not? Power isn't everything.

Paul, I'm an advanced Police driver with pursuit classification. If I say I stayed in touch, I stayed in touch.
The other drivers were point and squirt merchants, and the S3 chassis hardly inspires you to press on through bends in grubby conditions in case it spits you out of the bend shiny side down.
Sure, both he and the scooby accelerated away from me on the straights, But they were on the brakes waay to early, and at times unnecessarily and tiptoeing round bends. I was making best use of what I did have and reeled them back in through the bendy bits. This is where our cars excel. I followed them for over 60 miles of mixed A and B-roads and they didn't lose me, despite trying. After all, an accountant in an S3 is going to try and lose his copper mate for bragging rights in the pub, isn't he?!

The most often ignored component in a car is the one that joins the steering wheel to the seat.

If I wanted to brag I'd be on about the time I kept in touch with two 600CC sports bikes in central London in a 1.6 focus for over 5 minutes, or covering 120 miles in under an hour on congested motorway in an unmarked mondeo without using my blues and twos, or driving a new M5 whilst exempt from speed limits (the only way to really appreciate one IMO). Power doesn't make you a better driver, but it will punish the bad ones among us. Lack of power often makes you really appreciate ho to best use what you do have.

[Lauren]

Paul, I'm an advanced Police driver with pursuit classification. If I say I stayed in touch, I stayed in touch.
The other drivers were point and squirt merchants, and the S3 chassis hardly inspires you to press on through bends in grubby conditions in case it spits you out of the bend shiny side down.
Sure, both he and the scooby accelerated away from me on the straights, But they were on the brakes waay to early, and at times unnecessarily and tiptoeing round bends. I was making best use of what I did have and reeled them back in through the bendy bits. This is where our cars excel. I followed them for over 60 miles of mixed A and B-roads and they didn't lose me, despite trying. After all, an accountant in an S3 is going to try and lose his copper mate for bragging rights in the pub, isn't he?!

The most often ignored component in a car is the one that joins the steering wheel to the seat.

If I wanted to brag I'd be on about the time I kept in touch with two 600CC sports bikes in central London in a 1.6 focus for over 5 minutes, or covering 120 miles in under an hour on congested motorway in an unmarked mondeo without using my blues and twos, or driving a new M5 whilst exempt from speed limits (the only way to really appreciate one IMO). Power doesn't make you a better driver, but it will punish the bad ones among us. Lack of power often makes you really appreciate ho to best use what you do have.

All that goes to show is that A3 driver was a duffer who didn't have a clue about driving. I've gone past diablo's, 360s etc on track, but I don't think the mk1 is a faster car.

[WeirdNeville]

Sorry lauren, I thought the thread title was "most impressive wins" whereby we might recount tales of great drives and the use of out cars strengths to overcome their evident lack of power.

It appears that the actual thread title is actually "By posting in this thread I'm stating that mk1's are the fastest cars ever made, FACT!one11!1one!, and I demand to be ridiculed for saying so!!!one11!"

I did not say the mk1 is the faster car. I said that despite it's lack of power, use of the road and my faith in it's handling meant that it was not particularly troubling keeping two cars with nearly three times the power in check. Over the 1/4 mile, on track or with different drivers no doubt the story would have been different.

[JMR_AW11]

To be honest on most roads as long as you have reasonable power and a reasonable chassis then what really matters is how loopy you are.

On track it's different obviously.

[Kateg28]

Bicycles can beat me.

But I am having far too much fun to care

[pantera2075]

WHEN the engine conversion is complete - and assuming i've got 122 bhp - 83k engine, 4-2-1 tubular manifold, magnex and Pipercross filter, At 640kg all up for the GTM i'm looking at 190/tonne.

That's gonna be scary in something plated as a 1971 J reg and standard rubber mini suspension and brakes

[Lauren]

Sorry lauren, I thought the thread title was "most impressive wins" whereby we might recount tales of great drives and the use of out cars strengths to overcome their evident lack of power.

It appears that the actual thread title is actually "By posting in this thread I'm stating that mk1's are the fastest cars ever made, FACT!one11!1one!, and I demand to be ridiculed for saying so!!!one11!"

I did not say the mk1 is the faster car. I said that despite it's lack of power, use of the road and my faith in it's handling meant that it was not particularly troubling keeping two cars with nearly three times the power in check. Over the 1/4 mile, on track or with different drivers no doubt the story would have been different.

Okay, what i'm saying is that if you kept up with some duffer on the road in your Mk1 it is not necessarily a 'win'. I mean lets face it how often do you encounter someone on the road who can actually drive?

[oukie]

Just a few weeks back I not only kept up with but overtook a Porche Boxter,

Now this was on a stretch of road near my house that I know very well (very twisty B road )

The porky was giving it some, I gave More. I overtook coming out a bend at silly speed the porky driver looked at me as im sum sort a nutter

I am

[SuperRedMR2]

Oukie has mullered me in his mk1b. Wasn't fair as it was wet and I didnt know the road.

We should have a topic, "who has the loudest exhaust" lol

[PW@Woodsport]

Sorry neville,your post read to me like your mk1 had kept up with the 350bhp scooby and that all drivers concerned were capable,im sure you will agree under normal circumstances there is not a chance in hell a standard (or even slightly modified) mk1 has a hope of staying in touch with a car like that.

In short,you kept up due to another drivers poor ability,would you agree?