PS3 Rant!

[mikee66]

lol. more like sony screwed you all and gave you like 1/5 of a game so you have to download a load of patches.

dont know if thats 100% true or not but i dont think gt5 is a good stand point for the ps3 from wherever you look at it.

Well considering the game is still alot bigger than most games and only cost £19.99 i think it was a bargain.

Why would it being 1/5 of a game mean it needs patched?

Gt tv is the reason for the update, you can watch top gear and other motoring related programmes now.

id hardly call gears of war, halo, mass effect, forza, crackdown and so on "the odd exception". pretty big titles.

what about ps3 exclusive titles? Little big planet, jak and daxter, killzone 3, mgs 4 also pretty big titles.

What i meant was that the majority of the BIG games at the moment, dead space, fallout 3, saints row 2, far cry 2 etc etc are all multi format.

Obviously there are gonna be sony/microsoft exclusive titles and each game will have it's lovers and hater. Just cos it's on xbox or ps3 shouldn't detract from the actual game.

Also the amount of people moaning about ps3's on just this forum is a lot lower than the amount of people who are moaning about 360 issues.

cant argue with that. reliability does suck on earlier models. they seem to have it sorted now though. i know mine hasnt died in ages.

my ps3 hasn't died at all

i could buy a bluray player and a 360 for the same price of a PS3 so its not a huge advantage anymore.

specially as theres rumours of an external bluray drive coming at some point.

and what good is power if nobody is bothering to use it?

Yes you prob could buy a 360 and bluray player for the same money but the ps3 is a great all in one solution. You would then have to buy a wireless adaptor,xbox live membership and rechargable pack for the 360 to be able to compare it to the ps3 and the bluray player would have to be 2.0 compliant.

i think its funny how you have only jus gotten the in-game xmb. sony cant even copy quickly. they had all that extra time and still launched with a crappy online service. its only now they are trying to catch up and that will all change in november when we get the new dashboard.

Yeah ingame xmb has only just been launched but i to me thats no big deal, i'm sure others have been waiting for it though.

The online service is fine imo, i play my games online with no problems at all.

When nov comes you are getting a new dashboard? Kinda like a copy of the wii one thats been available for a couple of years?

pot, kettle, black

jus recently, this was posted about fallout 3.

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/17931/Pla ... -Xbox-360/

Yep it is slightly better on 360 but only marginally, slightly jaggy distance shapes and slightly muddier texture. They both look poo compared to the pc version.

i get my games for £30-£35 so far from half the price and i dont have to upgrade my console every 6 months to play the games smoothly and how they should be played.

hmm xbox/ps3 games are £39.99 (fable 2) upto £44.99 (gow2) and even £49.99 (fallout3) so just because you get them for less doesn't mean everyone can. Pc games are £17.99 (pes 2009) upto £24.99 (fallout3) and onto £29.99 (spore) so yeah they are about half the price.

I don't have to upgrade my pc every 6 months. I recently had to upgrade after 4 years because my pc died. A mid range gaming pc can be bought for not a lot more than a 360 elite and can do A LOT MORE

Qty Description Ex VAT Inc VAT
1 160G Samsung SATA II 7200/8 21.52 25.29
1 Arctic Cool. Freezer7Pro s775 12.99 15.26
1 Corsair TwinX 2GB DDR2 6400 C4 28.64 33.65
1 530W HIPER PSU SLI HPU4M530 31.29 36.77
1 Cmaster RC330 Elite Black Case 25.52 29.99
1 Akasa AK-191BL 120mm BLUEIMPER 3.89 4.57
1 x100 Cable Ties 200MM X 2.5MM 0.95 1.12
1 Intel PentiumDCore E2180 2.0GH 40.09 47.11
1 NEC AD-7200S-0B X20 BLK SATA 13.10 15.39
1 512M ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M/A 96.89 113.85
1 GByte EP31-DS3L MoBo 40.49 47.58
1 E Carriage 18.45 21.68
1 Auto. generated by E Orders 0.00 0.00
Sub Total £333.82
VAT £58.44
Total £392.26

Mike

[mikee66]

Its articals like this that all the Sony whores should pay attention to.

A HUGE game like Fallout3, made from scratch for both consoles. Looks better on the 'inferior' 360.

Proves which console is inferior doesn't it!

Thai it was coded for consoles on the 360 and ported across to ps3 i've read.

[thai boxer]

Its articals like this that all the Sony whores should pay attention to.

A HUGE game like Fallout3, made from scratch for both consoles. Looks better on the 'inferior' 360.

Proves which console is inferior doesn't it!

Thai it was coded for consoles on the 360 and ported across to ps3 i've read.

I read that too mate, but also read it was coded for both, as they said they were having problems doing it for the PS3.

[Goto10]

Proves which console is inferior doesn't it!

Not really, it proves that developer did a poor port onto the PS3. The PS3 can't be blamed for shoddy software!

[Goto10]

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/17931/Pla ... -Xbox-360/

"Our exclusive Fallout 3 PS3 review (from PSM3#107) has leaked onto the Internet and, as expected, a single sentence has been dragged out, beaten and interrogated under a spotlight. This one; "The PS3 version compares poorly to its Xbox and PC counterparts." Which, in the parlance of the Internet, obviously means; "THE PS3 VERSION SUCKS! XBOX WINS! ANOTHER CRAPPY PORT!" But that isn't the case. The PS3 version just looks SLIGHTLY WORSE than the other versions."
Continued...

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar ... ?id=199997

" As for those claiming this as some form of victory for Xbox's architecture over PS3, the dull truth is that games will almost always look slightly better on the format they were originally coded for. In the reverse scenario, look at PS3-specific titles like Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, MGS4 and Killzone to see how PS3 can perform when coded from the ground up. Bigger third-party developers, especially EA, have almost completely eradicated cross-platform hiccups - for example, our recent demo of Skate 2 led on PS3, while last year's game led on Xbox."

[mikee66]

Its articals like this that all the Sony whores should pay attention to.

A HUGE game like Fallout3, made from scratch for both consoles. Looks better on the 'inferior' 360.

Proves which console is inferior doesn't it!

Thai it was coded for consoles on the 360 and ported across to ps3 i've read.

I read that too mate, but also read it was coded for both, as they said they were having problems doing it for the PS3.

so why the big ps3 is poo rant

[Goto10]

I read that too mate, but also read it was coded for both, as they said they were having problems doing it for the PS3.

so why the big ps3 is poo rant

PC<->XBox is a nice easy port, I think the game was developed for PC foremost and then ported to Xbox and PS3, the latter not being a straightforward port and thus suffering very slightly in the process.
+1 to the 360 on this occasion by the sounds of it, although it's not as damning as the Xbox fansites make out.

[thai boxer]

Thai it was coded for consoles on the 360 and ported across to ps3 i've read.

I read that too mate, but also read it was coded for both, as they said they were having problems doing it for the PS3.

so why the big ps3 is poo rant

I'm not ranting mate. I didn't start the thread. A PS3 owner did!

[RichardK]

PC<->XBox is a nice easy port, I think the game was developed for PC foremost and then ported to Xbox and PS3, the latter not being a straightforward port and thus suffering very slightly in the process.
+1 to the 360 on this occasion by the sounds of it, although it's not as damning as the Xbox fansites make out.

PC to Xbox was a nice easy port.
PC to Xbox 360? Well, I am sure the tools developed by Microsoft are similar, but they're very different animals inside.

The Xbox 360 uses a PowerPC core. And FWIW, the PowerPC instruction set and architecture form the bones of the Cell CPU.

[RichardK]

PC games can be free and i havent had to upgrade my computer in 1.5 years. Lets just all agree that the PC is better then both the Xbox and PS3.

Maybe when you're still living on your own, or in a bedsit. Ultimately resolution and framerate are nonsense barometers of how good a game is; I spent hours reading text and typing in commands on a VT100 terminal to enjoy an immersive game when I was a kid - hell, I'd consider myself lucky if I saw a film which looked as sharp or fast as a modern TV game

There's an entertainment aspect to games consoles, and I don't want to be entertained sitting at the same device I use for work. I want to sit in a big comfy sofa, without any reminders than I've got images to edit, articles to write or emails to reply to, with a simple well-designed controller (hear that, Sony? Not that POS Sixaxis thing) and using a device which "just works" with the TV, no messing about configuring it to get it all to work, getting the right graphics cards, etc.

There IS an art to making a good gaming PC. It's an art I'd rather not have to care about; a console is cheaper, easier to use, just as functional for the purpose I intend it for, and should be quieter (hear that, Microsoft? Not liable to deafen Helen Keller like the 360) and less obtrusive is a bit of living room furniture.

Also, let's see anyone build a gaming PC that performs as well as a £129 Xbox 360 for the same money including a usable controller and a warranty.

[Ekona]

Above all, we need to remember that the Amiga is better than the ST.

[RichardK]

Above all, we need to remember that the Amiga is better than the ST.

Feh, if you like Guru meditations and a screen refresh that means it has a Government Health Warning for epileptics.

[Ekona]

Much like this thread then, really.

[mr2daz]

I'm still not sold on the 360, still none the wiser about what it does that overshadows the all singing all dancing ps3?

What's wrong with the 6axis wotsit too? I like it, there's certainly nothing wrong with it and if you don't want to use it, well you don't have to. I wouldn't do without it for GTA4 chopper rides.

None of the games apart from forza on the 360 are of any interest to me as I've never played them so I won't miss them, forza might be nice to have but again I'm not pining for it. It's no big deal, I just play something else. It's not really much of an argument for the xbox over the ps imo. I want to hear about what it does that gets it's followers so hateful towards the ps3 or is it literally just envy for having bought an inferior piece of junk and just finding it hard to admit defeat?

[pcp]

I'm still not sold on the 360, still none the wiser about what it does that overshadows the all singing all dancing ps3?

What's wrong with the 6axis wotsit too? I like it, there's certainly nothing wrong with it and if you don't want to use it, well you don't have to. I wouldn't do without it for GTA4 chopper rides.

None of the games apart from forza on the 360 are of any interest to me as I've never played them so I won't miss them, forza might be nice to have but again I'm not pining for it. It's no big deal, I just play something else. It's not really much of an argument for the xbox over the ps imo. I want to hear about what it does that gets it's followers so hateful towards the ps3 or is it literally just envy for having bought an inferior piece of junk and just finding it hard to admit defeat?

TBF that last paragraph applies the other way too, I've been waiting for a game to justify me buying a PS3, but at the minute there still isn't any. IMO there are a few titles that the 360 has that the ps3 doesn't, but as you haven't played them then you don't know

swings and roundabouts, whatever console makes you happiest then play that one

[mikee66]

I read that too mate, but also read it was coded for both, as they said they were having problems doing it for the PS3.

so why the big ps3 is poo rant

I'm not ranting mate. I didn't start the thread. A PS3 owner did!

Its articals like this that all the Sony whores should pay attention to.

A HUGE game like Fallout3, made from scratch for both consoles. Looks better on the 'inferior' 360.

Proves which console is inferior doesn't it!

I never asked who started the thread, i asked why the ps3 rant if you already knew the answer?

[Andy Jones]

Proves which console is inferior doesn't it!

Not really, it proves that developer did a poor port onto the PS3. The PS3 can't be blamed for shoddy software!

[360owner]Yes it can!!! [/360owner]

Strange that the developers of COD4 had the time/skill/patience to write that from the ground up instead of "porting" it to the PS3 and that was well polished and didn't suffer from various graphic/texture/frame rate issues other companies fob you off with *cough* Bioshock

Already mentioned but patches are unavoidable nowadays. Online consoles with developers blaming "deadlines" for a release date means they can and will but out bugged versions to fix later if there's enough complaints.

Exclusive games for both systems by 3rd party developers will only remain exclusive until they want to top up their bank accounts. Valve wouldn't "port" The Orange Box to PS3 as there was no market for it apparently. Funny after it finally being released by EA and it spending half of the year in the top 10 they've said they're considering developing future releases for both consoles in house.

[RichardK]

I'm still not sold on the 360, still none the wiser about what it does that overshadows the all singing all dancing ps3?

What's wrong with the 6axis wotsit too? I like it, there's certainly nothing wrong with it and if you don't want to use it, well you don't have to. I wouldn't do without it for GTA4 chopper rides.

The 360 costs less and has more existing games. I think that's about the size of it, TBH. Most of the anti-PS3 'feeling' seemed to come from the launch price of £425, despite the fact that at the time specifying a 360 to deliver the same entertainment options would cost more. I'm still annoyed I have to spend £50 to hook my Elite up to the WiFi network now I've moved the router.

Mostly, though, I think people enjoy a lively debate about things and airing their opinions regardless.

Also, the Sixaxis is crap IMO. It's light and flimsy, and the long-travel triggers for throttle are too small and have a design which means your fingers slip off them. For driving/racing games the 360 controller suits me better. That's just me, though - what puzzles me is that I have fairly small hands and find the Sixaxis annoying.

[un1eash]

PC games can be free and i havent had to upgrade my computer in 1.5 years. Lets just all agree that the PC is better then both the Xbox and PS3.

There's an entertainment aspect to games consoles, and I don't want to be entertained sitting at the same device I use for work. I want to sit in a big comfy sofa, without any reminders than I've got images to edit, articles to write or emails to reply to, with a simple well-designed controller (hear that, Sony? Not that POS Sixaxis thing) and using a device which "just works" with the TV, no messing about configuring it to get it all to work, getting the right graphics cards, etc.

Also, let's see anyone build a gaming PC that performs as well as a £129 Xbox 360 for the same money including a usable controller and a warranty.

No need to sit at the computer, thats what the 50" plasma is for. Computer doesnt even need to be in the same room. The computer doubles as a HTPC which can play blu-ray/HD DVD's and has all my music and videos on which are available at the touch of a button. Controlling the PC can be done through the iPhone.

Yes theres a bit more configuration needed to get it all up and running but you can use a PS3 or xbox 360 controller with the PC. I know many others disagree but i think FPS need to be played with a keyboard and mouse. Also games like C&C are useless on game consoles using the controllers.

[Goto10]

Also, the Sixaxis is crap IMO. It's light and flimsy.

The dualshock is a nicer weight, I've never had the problem of slipping off the analogue buttons, do you eat butter with your hands perchance..? :)