MR2 Turbo VS Honda Integra Type R???

[steve b]

lol this comes up all the time now, think people are getting sick of sados with different cars signing staying on their old MR2 forums saying their car is better, ner ner.

It makes me laugh (quite a lot) when people cannot accept that other cars can possibly have a better chassis or be a better car than theirs.

Why is that?

So are you really going to argue that the DC2 doesn't have a better chassis than an MR2?

Come on Lauren you must know by now that early mk2's are the best car on the planet, mr2nut123 could have any Porsche or whatever car he fancies and chooses an old MR2 BECAUSE ITS THE BEST, THERE IS NO BETTER!! He's having his car modifed to 300bhp you know, then it'll out drag the Enterprise.

[ancient mariner]

morning all,some interesting reading here.i have no intention of getting involved,in which is the better car .but what does strike me is the fact that,in financial terms i don't think the teg is in a elitist market,therefore it's for sure most mr2 owners,could if they wanted purchase one.so do we see everyone rushing to sell their bad handling poor road holding,lack of power cars with the inability to power out of a bend mr2's,so that they can purchase the unfaultable teg! i don't think so .so for all it's bad points,their are many reasons why we prefer our mr2's.main one being if we all had tegs,we wouldnt be here on imoc uk ! then again we could change it to suit,i suppose.paul.

[steve b]

,in financial terms i don't think the teg is in a elitist market,

True, but they are more expensive, i.e. they have held their value far better than the MR2 so that indicates there is a higher demand for them than MR2's.

i.e. rev3 MR2 £1500 n/a, £2500 turbo, ITR of the same vintage £3500

[ancient mariner]

,in financial terms i don't think the teg is in a elitist market,

True, but they are more expensive, i.e. they have held their value far better than the MR2 so that indicates there is a higher demand for them than MR2's.

i.e. rev3 MR2 £1500 n/a, £2500 turbo, ITR of the same vintage £3500

sorry mate,it must be an age thing.i realise now why we all don't have one .thanks for pointing that out for me.paul

[Lauren]

,in financial terms i don't think the teg is in a elitist market,

True, but they are more expensive, i.e. they have held their value far better than the MR2 so that indicates there is a higher demand for them than MR2's.

i.e. rev3 MR2 £1500 n/a, £2500 turbo, ITR of the same vintage £3500

ITR's tend to be a bit more than 3.5K for one worth having. Think more 5K.

We paid 5.5K for ours last Xmas.

[Lauren]

Come on Lauren you must know by now that early mk2's are the best car on the planet, mr2nut123 could have any Porsche or whatever car he fancies and chooses an old MR2 BECAUSE ITS THE BEST, THERE IS NO BETTER!! He's having his car modifed to 300bhp you know, then it'll out drag the Enterprise.

Good point, silly me!

[mr2nut123]

lol this comes up all the time now, think people are getting sick of sados with different cars signing staying on their old MR2 forums saying their car is better, ner ner.

It makes me laugh (quite a lot) when people cannot accept that other cars can possibly have a better chassis or be a better car than theirs.

Why is that?

So are you really going to argue that the DC2 doesn't have a better chassis than an MR2?

Come on Lauren you must know by now that early mk2's are the best car on the planet, mr2nut123 could have any Porsche or whatever car he fancies and chooses an old MR2 BECAUSE ITS THE BEST, THERE IS NO BETTER!! He's having his car modifed to 300bhp you know, then it'll out drag the Enterprise.

"You have a major chip on your shoulder"...where have I heard that before.

If you don't believe I can't afford a Porsche boxster thats your problem. Ok so it wouldn't be easy, but i'd rather spend my cash on holidays and enjoying life than been skint because of my car.

The clear fact is, with over 260bhp and a properly set up car, combined with stunning looks (far better than those poncy mx5s) and reasonably lightweight, it can outperform and outhandle MANY cars that are far more expensive and dull to look at. The MK2 ticks all the right boxes and I don't have to track it and beat a car by a few seconds just to prove that my car is 'worthy'.

[Lauren]

"You have a major chip on your shoulder"...where have I heard that before.

If you don't believe I can't afford a Porsche boxster thats your problem. Ok so it wouldn't be easy, but i'd rather spend my cash on holidays and enjoying life than been skint because of my car.

The clear fact is, with over 260bhp and a properly set up car, combined with stunning looks (far better than those poncy mx5s) and reasonably lightweight, it can outperform and outhandle MANY cars that are far more expensive and dull to look at. The MK2 ticks all the right boxes and I don't have to track it and beat a car by a few seconds just to prove that my car is 'worthy'.

LOL! Oh so defensive. Maybe you can outperform in a straightline against many other cars that are far more expensive, but so what, anyone can put their foot down in a straight line.

I'm not convinced that Boxster owners (for example) would envy you in any way whatsoever.

I think the key here is that the MR2 ticks 'all the right boxes' for you and if it does thats great for you, but it may not hold true for everyone.

[loadswine]

Its funny re the Boxster thing, we had a couple of owners over on ROC who went from their Mk3 to a Porker, then came back to the roadster again as they preferred it, albeit turbo'd ones.
The ticking of boxes will always be personal and therefore subjective, as folks have different requirements and preferences.
As far as the Integras go, i would love a car that doesn't bite back in the wet like a 2 can. But I cheat, as I pretty much only use mine in the dry.

We have a track day soon up at Anglesey, and I've seen from the driver and car list, there is a DC5 booked in, will have to have a word and see if I can get a pax ride in that one.

[Lauren]

We have a track day soon up at Anglesey, and I've seen from the driver and car list, there is a DC5 booked in, will have to have a word and see if I can get a pax ride in that one.

DC5 is okay, but try and bag a ride in a well driven DC2 if you can.

I will (tax rebate imminent) be on track for Angers on 15th November, why not come to that, i'll show you what it can do.

[loadswine]

I'd love to have a ride in the DC2, but not sure I can swing 2 trips up to Wales at the mo. Very generous offer though Lauren, I will catch up with you at some point for that.

[lukem]

i don't claim to be a great driver, but i've just come back from a track day where my modified rev4 tubby was outhandled by a couple of dc5s, although i could just about outdrag them once on straights. ok, there's loads of possible variables, but dissapointing none the less.

[steve b]

"You have a major chip on your shoulder"...where have I heard that before.

If you don't believe I can't afford a Porsche boxster thats your problem. Ok so it wouldn't be easy, but i'd rather spend my cash on holidays and enjoying life than been skint because of my car.

The clear fact is, with over 260bhp and a properly set up car, combined with stunning looks (far better than those poncy mx5s) and reasonably lightweight, it can outperform and outhandle MANY cars that are far more expensive and dull to look at. The MK2 ticks all the right boxes and I don't have to track it and beat a car by a few seconds just to prove that my car is 'worthy'.

I really don't need to comment , you really make yourself look the

[steve b]

i don't claim to be a great driver, but i've just come back from a track day where my modified rev4 tubby was outhandled by a couple of dc5s, although i could just about outdrag them once on straights. ok, there's loads of possible variables, but dissapointing none the less.

I wouldn't be dissapointed, remember they are a 5 Star car in almost every review.

Nice one getting the 2 out on track

[Kongaroo]

This discussion is becoming a little silly now with suggestions that a DC2 is going to be significantly more expensive than a similar year MR2 turbo.

Although I would agree that there seem to be far fewer DC2's imported into the country than MR2's so you tend to see fewer of them for sale - for what reason I don't know.

As Ancient mariner suggests above I don't think it's going to be a financial issue at the sort of price variations we are talking about here. The thread is starting to sound like one of those Evo threads where Aidy pops up every now and again to let us know that we could never afford to buy a new Evo (chavy MR2 owning scum that we are )

[Lauren]

This discussion is becoming a little silly now with suggestions that a DC2 is going to be significantly more expensive than a similar year MR2 turbo.

Although I would agree that there seem to be far fewer DC2's imported into the country than MR2's so you tend to see fewer of them for sale - for what reason I don't know.

As Ancient mariner suggests above I don't think it's going to be a financial issue at the sort of price variations we are talking about here. The thread is starting to sound like one of those Evo threads where Aidy pops up every now and again to let us know that we could never afford to buy a new Evo (chavy MR2 owning scum that we are )

I think generally DC2s are a bit more expensive than mr2 turbos of the same age. I would guess that there are fewer DC2s in the country simply because not a lot of people know what they are. If you say you have an MR2 most people will know what it is. If you say you have an Integra the only people that seem to know what they are are petrolheads/enthusiasts.

[ancient mariner]

,in financial terms i don't think the teg is in a elitist market,

True, but they are more expensive, i.e. they have held their value far better than the MR2 so that indicates there is a higher demand for them than MR2's.

i.e. rev3 MR2 £1500 n/a, £2500 turbo, ITR of the same vintage £3500

couple of points to make,if their was such an high demand,their would be more imported,and so more available.lauren is correct in stating,that they are not widely recognised.
you are making the mistake of valuing all mr2's at the lower end of the price scale,while it is true,that their is a lot of poo about,their are also a lot of high quality mr2's,which will allways attract a decent price.i paid £3200 for a rev2 appx 5 months ago,and consider it money well spent.i have since spent a further £1500 on it.i know i will not see a full return on my money,if i sell it.but that brings me to my main point.the people driving mr2's are mostly doing so out of choice! they could within personal
financial restraints,choose to own and drive a different car,the simple case is they choose to own drive,modify and become infatuated with the mr2.so for all their faults,the fact is ,the mr2 is a great car to own.the people who own them are in the main,helpful, sociable,tolerant,sterling folks,as proved by imoc uk.thats why when people sell their mr2's so many still stick around on here.i rest my case. .paul.

[mr2nut123]

"You have a major chip on your shoulder"...where have I heard that before.

If you don't believe I can't afford a Porsche boxster thats your problem. Ok so it wouldn't be easy, but i'd rather spend my cash on holidays and enjoying life than been skint because of my car.

The clear fact is, with over 260bhp and a properly set up car, combined with stunning looks (far better than those poncy mx5s) and reasonably lightweight, it can outperform and outhandle MANY cars that are far more expensive and dull to look at. The MK2 ticks all the right boxes and I don't have to track it and beat a car by a few seconds just to prove that my car is 'worthy'.

I really don't need to comment , you really make yourself look the

What exactly made me look like a clown in that post? Its all true and make perfect sense. My car doesn't rule my life, and the MR2 outperforms and looks better than many cars that claim to be sports cars, it's as simple as that, which is why the only comment you did have was 'I really don't need to comment'

[nakamura]

Who cares. My NA celica will thrash them all around a track!
Well with its slipping clutch it will certainly hit the redline faster!

[Ry_B]

I love both the DC2+the DC5 BUT..

Saying it is worth more because it's better is silly. The main reason it's worth more is because less were imported, supply and demand!

PS I would own a DC2 over an MR2 turbo as they are so chuckable!