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Spittinflames wrote:matt_mr2t wrote:Oh FFS people, stop turning every thread into a debate about 360 VS PS3.
We've already turned one into a 7 page b1tch fight, how about you leave this one alone.
Never thought I would be sticking up for a thread about Grand Theft Auto but I really would rather talk about that than a childish debate about which console is better.
Agreed
matt_mr2t wrote:Spittinflames wrote:matt_mr2t wrote:Oh FFS people, stop turning every thread into a debate about 360 VS PS3.
We've already turned one into a 7 page b1tch fight, how about you leave this one alone.
Never thought I would be sticking up for a thread about Grand Theft Auto but I really would rather talk about that than a childish debate about which console is better.
Agreed
What ever floats your boat fella!
....... Grumpy sod latley arent ya. And i know what your going to say in response " I'm not grumpy i'm just fed up of people arguing over which console is best" Don't read it then..... Don't reply then...... Go for a beer then.... play pool then.... Do something that dosent make you GRUMPY.
(not a chain store) told me he's getting delivery of this either tomorrow (weds) or thursday morning latest!! and because im his best mate i get it as soon as he does. but i still gotta pay 
lol cant wait! area that wants his number feel free to pm me as he sells them the day he gets them btwmatt_mr2t wrote:I'm not grumpy, far from it.
I just think it's pointless turning nearly every thread into an argument about which is best.
This was supposed to be about GTA4 but hardly a word has been said about it.
Fair play.H3RB wrote:just been rang by my mate who owns a game store
oh yeah any 1 in the merry hill/dudley
The powers that be are trying to make out that its based on preview code, but its actually the same code that every major review outlet is going to use. As youll know, we hate embargos and artificial delays of reviews so publishers can cut cash/advertising deals with mags and websites, so well be hosting the review here until its restored on its original site. Anyway, its your right to have access to the review, so here you go: So, to please my fans, I'm happy to oblige. Does GTA4 live up to the hype? Yes. Are the PS3 and 360 really the same? No. Period. You will like the Xbox 360 version of this game. You will like the PS3 version of this game. Technically, they are the same! However, there are some minor variations. To make these variations easier to read through, I will write 360 specific comments in RED (since the 360 is famous for the color red, haha) and PS3 comments in Blu (see what I did there?). [We didnt bother keeping the colours, as it doesnt add anything to the review] So let's get started! Don't worry, it only takes ten minutes or so, and there's a pleasant bit of GTA history trivia to keep you occupied. So, unlike with Devil May Cry, you'll be able to eat your sandwich prior to playing the game. On the 360, this installation is optional if you have a hard drive. I advise to proceed with installationit reduces the already minimal frame rate issues on the 360. When the game finally begins, you'll be treated to the best opening credit sequence I've seen for a game in a long, long time. Let's just say that the story in GTA4 is much more cohesive and cinematic than in other GTA games. But you'll only love part of it. The game play is essentially the same as it was in previous GTA games, which is what you'll love. There are a few extras/improvements that you'll also love. Vehicles are fantastic. The cover system is effective and easy to get used to, as most games now have some sort of cover system. The squeaky car animation used when hookers do their thing is now accompanied by foggy windowssweet. You can store your favorite vehicles in garages or parking spaces, which is a nice touch. Pay n Spray will replace your broken windows and change your car color
but that does nothing when the police are already in pursuit. If you've never played GTA, then you won't miss much. The absence of the Dodo stinks. Going on rampages is now almost impossible. The ability to commit crimes is much more difficult. Wanna shoot rockets down the street, blow up a parking lot, etc? Well, you won't get far. The 5-0 in GTA4 are smart, and they work really hard to bring you down. The game would feel much more realistic if cops had to call for back up, and patrol cars would actually drive to your location from a few blocks away before joining the fun. But that's not how it works. A handful of cops will appear out of nowhere (on the 360, they actually pop-in if you didn't do the install). NOOSE will appear out of no where. And choppers? Well, there's no faint pitter-patter of blades in the wind to alert you of their approach. I think they jump to position through worm holes or something. It feels so real. Let's face it, when you hit a pedestrian at 50 mph, they do one thing: fall. It may look different in slow motion, but when you're really doing itwhen you're in the middle of the actionanimations always feel the same. There are moments, though, where Euphoria will kick in and you'll say, Awesome. When you try to duplicate it, you won't be able to. This is where Euphoria shines. There will be one time moments of sheer blissand it's worth every second. You'll spend your first twenty or so trips admiring the city from the cab. Remember the car ride in Call of Duty 4? This is equally as engaging, if not more so. Seeing the world like this, hustling and bustling, living their digital lives
it makes a bullet to their head an extra level of satisfaction. The controls aren't identical to previous games, but the learning curve is really small. Most people will probably prefer the 360 controller, but that's to be expected. I'll mention the single big thing: running. Tapping a button to run works well in theory, but I just know that the wear and tear on my controller has to be increasing exponentially. Still, it's better than having fatigue in game, as how much you run literally depends on your fatigue in the real world. If you're tired of tapping, you walk or take a cab. If the cops are on your tail, you muster up the energy to tap some more. All in all, it works as a concept
but it's bitter-sweet. But I know you're really concerned about which system it looks better on, and I have the scoop! The truth is that, if installed, the game looks equally impressive on both systems. If you don't like the realistic look, and you have a HDMI connection, you can fiddle with your PS3 display settings and get it looking much more saturated. The textures are just as sharp as the 360 version, and there's little to no pop-in or screen tearing. The PS3 takes longer to load than the 360, but I took several different head counts in game at different locations, and I always found the PS3 to be more populated than the 360. This could be attributed to the dynamic nature of the world, but it's hard to tell. Either way, the difference was never more than five to seven pedestrians or three to four carsit's not really much of an advantage. Boy is it bright. Based on discussion history, this one will be claimed to look better, but it'll really be preference. The texture quality is the same on both systems, but the 360 has a more cartoon-like look. This isn't a bad thing. It just depends on preference. I'd compare the difference to that of Oblivion on each system. The 360 also suffers from some frame rate drops that are almost non-existent on the PS3. Installing the 360 version on your system's hard drive, however, will bring performance almost up to par with the PS3. I'd liken it to shopping for a TV. There's always one that looks better than another, the 60 make the 50 seem too small, etc. The truth is, once by itself in your living room, it'll look fantastic, and you won't be disappointed. I know, you want details, but all I can confirm is split-screen on PS3 only. I was alone, so I didn't actually get to have any matches, but I could tell that the split-screen worked really well. There was a significant decrease in the amount of traffic and pedestrians, but it didn't ruin anything. This is understandable. Rendering two instances of Liberty City is a chore for any machine. I can't conclude one way or the other why the split-screen mode was not available on 360, but I assume by the drop in on-screen objects on the PS3 that the 360 just couldn't handle it. If you own a 360, don't worry. You have Xbox Live
so you're set. It's worth $60, and you'll easily spend over 75 hours with this game. That's a pretty decent bargain. It's difficult to rate the game without bias! Any complaints I have are almost completely based on my experience with other GTA games
so it's tough!- Circuit Pack 
- Circuit Pack Lauren wrote:In with keeping with the thread:
stuff.
the problems with cars spawning in behind you and police appearing out of nowhere aren't there, the Police now come from the nearest police station, same with the Fire service and Ambulances.
Steve_Rutter wrote:Lauren wrote:In with keeping with the thread:
stuff.
The 360 doesn't have the option to install, there is no installing on the 360 copy whatsoever.
Thats a PS3 thing only. Nice update Lauren. 
Antstarr wrote:
yay to bad i got loads to do today aso i wont be able to play much matt_mr2t wrote:Antstarr wrote:
LMAO, couldnt resist that one could ya sunshine lol.
Same game at the end of the day
Exactly what I was gona say! So on your 'better console that boasts better power' the game looks exactly the same as the 360 version (which is brighter)...says a lot about the PS3 then doesn't it! (Thigh?) lets not start a 360 vs PS3 argument. 
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Steve_Rutter wrote:Lauren wrote:In with keeping with the thread:
stuff.
I don't normally post on here, have the occasional lurk, but that post makes me compelled to hit the post button.
He put up a later review after playing a finished copy of the game and upped his rating as several things in that review weren't in the final version:
There is no split-screen multiplayer in either version.
The 360 doesn't have the option to install, there is no installing on the 360 copy whatsoever.
The graphical differences he mentions are even smaller now and the problems with cars spawning in behind you and police appearing out of nowhere aren't there, the Police now come from the nearest police station, same with the Fire service and Ambulances.
I'll go back to hiding in the depths again, popping up once in a while to fight injustice in the manner of an elderly Batman.
.. Looks like I'm going to have to hide from the internet until Tuesday.