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hillc

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Post by hillc »

I start driving this september and i am getting a mark 1. i was wondering if they are a good beginners car. (i have a peugout 205 at the moment that i drive around our farm, so i can drive well). i was also wondering what i need to listen out for in the engine or what i need to check when im looking at an mr2. thanks alot :D :D :D
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Post by ldavies83 »

Personally I think your nuts for considering a mark 1 as a first "official" car, as MR's can snap back at you if your a little too eager on the right foot. But hey, who am I to pull anyone back from having a beautiful car!

I say carry on using the 205 and get used to other drivers around you, and keep the Mk1 for occasional driving.

Dont flame me, voicing my opinion.

Cheers,

L.
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Post by poyntesm »

I had a 205 GTi (1.9) and they were very eager to snap as well!!!

If you get a Mk1 just take it easy and learn how a mid engined car behaves.

Use our knowledge base to find all about the Mk1. We have a good buyers guide up there.
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Post by craig »

hmmm, seems a bit.........in at the deepend to me.

Up to you though, just my opinion 8-[
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I'd stay away from any RWD car (let alone mid-engined) for a few years.
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Re: new driver

Post by Scooter »

Maybe..........but all cars used to be rwd.......were just conditioned now to fwd so people suddenly changing to rwd can now cause problems..


....i reckon he could be fine by going straight to rwd, the mk1 is hardly massively powerful, and besides all youngsters will nearly always have a crash early on whatever they drive!

all depends on his mentality, and whether he's an enthusiatic but sensible'ish lad or a gunho show off wide boy type, and if he's the later he won't listen to 'us' anyway!
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Post by Dale_V »

Scooter wrote:
all depends on his mentality, and whether he's an enthusiatic but sensible'ish lad or a gunho show off wide boy type, and if he's the later he won't listen to 'us' anyway!


sums it up well, im guessing the first type as he's took the time to ask. Id say go for it and just take it easy as you should with all your new cars O:)
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I got my MK1 just after I turned 20. Had no real issuses with the handling.
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Post by CosmosblueMR2 »

I can understand people's aprehensions about a brand new first time driver going out and buying a mid engined RWD car as a first car - BUT, the poster already has a first car (normal FWD scrabbly nonsense :mrgreen: )

So i would say to the chap - only if your daily drive will remain your pug think about buying the Mk1. - then you can drive it sensibly and when it's not raining.

Having to contend with other drivers, pedestrians and new roads is enough for anyone as soon as they pass their test - let alone learning the way to drive a tail happy 2 at the same time !

not sure I'm making much sense in writing but I know what I mean in my head #-o
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Post by hillc »

I am the sensible type, i will go mad but i will do this at croft circuit on run what you brung days. i know that rwd cars do bite, but if the car just has a 1.6, it wont be to dangerous will it? i am thinking of spending about 700 quid on one do you think that for that price i will be able to get one that will run me about for a year, because after im moving to Oz and China for a year.

Oh yeah and do the standards have a NA engine or are they turboed or supercharged.
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The standard 1.6 which in all fairness is fairly quick for just a NA 1.6. :)
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Re: new driver

Post by CosmosblueMR2 »

hillc wrote: i know that rwd cars do bite, but if the car just has a 1.6, it wont be to dangerous will it?
Oh yeah and do the standards have a NA engine or are they turboed or supercharged.


doesn;t matter what engine it's got... if it's damp and you are not careful you will be snaking all the way up the road (if you are lucky) :mrgreen:

otherwise you'll do a 180 and just pray nothing is near you be it kerbs, trees, people or other cars.

Mk1 standard are NA yes,
you can get SC but I beleive they were only in Japan
and turbo Mk1's were not produced by Toyota I beleive. (that would just be insane! :shock: )
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Post by hillc »

sounds like fun (on a deserted country road)
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hillc wrote:sounds like fun (on a deserted country road)


Umm, no MR2 is suited for a farm condition.

It'll rot quickly unless garaged in the arches as well as take paint damage. Also you'll FEEL every single bump like someone is kicking you in the nutsack. Unless you've got Koni shocks or similar, in which case incase of a kick, it'll be more like a hard pounder with a hammer.
poyntesm

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Post by poyntesm »

Also you'll FEEL every single bump like someone is kicking you in the nutsack


This member I do not think will know that feeling!!
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Post by DoM »

hillc wrote:i know that rwd cars do bite, but if the car just has a 1.6, it wont be to dangerous will it?


It may be a 1.6, but they feel bloody quick!

In the dry traction is immense from the rears, but the fact that your engine is in the back of the car means you need to be a bit careful.. No lifting off mid corner/braking while turning - the back will start overtaking the front.

The chassis is a peach though, I'm sure you will have plenty of fun!

Dom
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Re: new driver

Post by ldavies83 »

axisofunity wrote:
hillc wrote:sounds like fun (on a deserted country road)


Umm, no MR2 is suited for a farm condition.

It'll rot quickly unless garaged in the arches as well as take paint damage. Also you'll FEEL every single bump like someone is kicking you in the nutsack. Unless you've got Koni shocks or similar, in which case incase of a kick, it'll be more like a hard pounder with a hammer.

dammit I spose I'll have to sell mine then; I live down a 1/2 mile dirt track on a small holding! And Yes, I do have koni's on the front, and yes I did make the mistake of turning them to "firm" for a laugh up the track, :shock: my hands felt numb after a few hundred yards! Back under the bonnet and soften them again methinks :lol:
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Post by sadako »

You'll be ok but the insurance will be a fortune. The first thing you must do when you get it also is put some good tyres on it too. My car came with happy shopper tyres with bad tread. I oversteered on the first day driving it gently cornering on a motorway sliproad. Put A539s on and hammer that same corner no problems. Just be very gentle with the throttle and you'll be good.
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Re: new driver

Post by anna »

I'd agree it can be a bit of a handful.

But the best thing for a learner would be to invest in really good tyres (good in wet and dry) - we have Bridgestone Potenza RE720's on our mk1 for normal road use - really grippy in the wet and dry (compared to Yoko A539's which can be 'interesting' in the wet!).

With the bridgestones on, we have trouble getting the back end to lose traction - but no such probs with yokos...
My boss at work used to have a Mk1, and couldn't believe me when I told him it was really difficult to get it to oversteer.
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Re: new driver

Post by raptor95GTS »

its only 1.6 so easy to drive


paraphrasing there so bear with me. If you haven't driven a mk1 then you have no concept of how the little 1.6 absolutely loves to rev. I mean really really rev. What it lacks in torque it makes up for in pure revs.

Any car can be made to misbehave, some are easier than others for sure but if treated with a sensitive right foot (SRF) then its a blast. A mk1 will out corner most mk2's so doesn't need the grunt.

{and relax}. sits back and waits for the flaming to start :D
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