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Spidey
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Rev 3 T-bar turbo

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Due to needing $$$ with another dustbin lid on the way, I am going to have to sell my baby.

Dec 93 Rev 3 t-bar turbo

T3/T4 turbo from BullseyePower in US (N-Trim in a .60 A/R compressor housing, with a .55 A/R turbine housing)
ST205 chargecooler incl Bosch run-dry pump (far more reliable than Davies Craig pump I hade before)
Apexi Intake
Apexi SAFC-2
Apexi-AVC-R
Custom downpipe
Mongoose exhaust
Produced 347fwhp at 1.43 bar BEFORE engine rebuild
dyno and turbo pics at

http://rwilsonie.blogspot.com

Now - rebuild was done after above dyno - I trusted the guy as I don't know anything much about engine building.
So, apologies for lack of spec.
New big end bearing, Ross 87mm pistons, sleeved block, low CR engine (not sure details), as well as usual gaskets, water pump etc

Engine management light is on at the moment and seems to be an issue with knock sensor, so they have ordered a new one.

Engine only had approx 61k miles before rebuild - and about 1.5k after rebuild

So, at the moment, the car has all the pieces in place (standalone probably needed but SAFC-2 will do to keep at a safe 350fwhp on built engine) but unfinished. So, am looking for offers on car "as is" - or if they get to the bottom of this issue and resolve it and remap it for higher boost, I'll obviously look for more $$.

Also, car was resprayed, Neos modified Border skirts and rear spats, Neos modified SARD front bumper

New T-bar seals :D

Kenwood headunit and 6x9's.

16" deep dish rims with 205/50/16 on front and 205/55/16 rear

Any offers considered - please state if offer is for car as is (i.e. with some issue) or if you want to wait til it's sorted and with proven dyno figure.



Rob
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Re: Rev 3 T-bar turbo

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P.S. will also consider a swap for a post '01 diesel Scenic with low miles and FSH.
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Re: Rev 3 T-bar turbo

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Hi mate,

Def interested, what do you think she is putting out now? And how much after the issued have been resolved and running on higher boost?

What sort of price range you thinking off for before and after?

Cheers.
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Have you got any more pics mate? Like other angles of car?

Thanks.
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Re: Rev 3 T-bar turbo

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Hey

All that has been done is a rebuild - no remap yet.

But before the rebuild it was 347fwhp at 1.43bar. So, built engine on it's own isn't going to raise the power. but it just takes turning up the Boost on the AVC-R and remapping the SAFC-2 - so, at say 1.8bar, maybe 400fwhp.

But at some point, the standard injectors will max out.

Basically, it's already proven at 347fwhp. if I don't get it remapped, it'll still do 347 but ready for much more - but fuelling will preobably need to be looked at.

Car is away att he moment - think they're still waiting on a new knock sensor from Toyota. And they're nearly 1.5 hours from me.

Probably won't be until I get the car back in 2/3 weeks max hopefully before I get to take anymore pics.

Not sure if you noticed but I'm located in Ireland - but if someone was interested, I'd probably drive to UK because I am going to be srarting up a business and want to go over to UK to pick up a cheap van anyway.

So, to be honest, I have the car for sale over here in Ireland as well. Now, due to our VRT (it's a double govt tax - long story!), car prices are inflated over here and we should get x% of VRT back when exporting. But we don't - point is that I stand to sell it for more over here than I would in UK.

So, throw any price at me - already had someone ask via pm and didn't want to offend me. I told him - throw a price at me - I won't be offended - disappointed maybe but not offended :D

Ta
Rob
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Re: Rev 3 T-bar turbo

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So has it got the round rev3 lights at the back then?

Paintwork all in good order?

What made you want to do a rebuild in 1st place?

I dont really know what to offer, but would say maybe in the region of about £6.2ish?

Cheers.
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Hi

Found a few older pics I had - these were before I had the SARD front on but it shows the rear lights.

I'll be honest and lay my cards on the table - I reckon I could get more here in Ireland but the market here is slow and I'd probably be waiting a long time if I held out. So, your offer is interesting.

So, you want to wait a few weeks until they sort whatever the issue is?

Car was resprayed over a year ago - will have to dig up the red I chose in the end but I think it was a "Supra Renaissance Red".

The reason I went for the rebuild was that I didn't have kids back then! and I said to myself that I loved my car and so, if I was going to keep it for years to come, that it'd be worth putting money into it.

I spent 8k euro on bodykit purchase + shipping, respray and engine build (incl parts + labour). I know you never get back what you put in :(

Anyway, first kid came along - second (unplanned) kid on the way ! and wife now has gone part-time and is going to stay at home when 2nd arrives in Oct.

So, all adds up to me not having time for a sports car (will hopefully be back in 3-4 years) and not having $$$ for it either.

I used to have the Need For Speed - now, I have the Need for MPG, the Need for Comfort, the Need for a Torquey Diesel :(

Ta
Rob

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Re: Rev 3 T-bar turbo

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Yeah dont mind waiting mate, waiting myself at the moment to see if ill be keeping my licence! Had a little dispute about a speeding fine and now im going court over it so fingers crossed!

Should hopefully know in a few weeks though.

Yeah I like the col, looka similar to mine, its a dark red too, more a sort of chili, sunkiss red. Not sure how close they are?

Got the border style bodykit on mine too but is only a rev1 tubby, had her for 14 months now. Now I just want the extra power, been dying to get a rev3 for ages! I only got the rev1 since I couldnt wait another few more months and now been struggling to save since its addictive wanting to keep adding to your car!

Ive just fitted a MBC, boost gauge, upped the boost, got back pods sitting here that need fitting to finish off the bodykit! And now im thinking of selling too! lol Even with running around 14 psi still doesnt give me nowhere near the power I want, thats what yours does! :)

Both are TBAR's too. :)


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Sorry didnt mean to flood your thread mate, just wanted to try and compare the colour! :) Is yours a dark red too?

I can take my pics done once youve had a look if you like? :)

Cheers.
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Looks like a nice 2 you have there.

Not sure if you noticed but I went for the Border from Neos where the side vent is moulded into it.

Engine guy rang me there and he thought I was ordering the new knock sensor and I thought he was ! So, another two weeks wasted !

Anyway, he's ordered it now - so, hopefully have some update in a week or so.

Rob
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rwilson_ie wrote:P.S. will also consider a swap for a post '01 diesel Scenic with low miles and FSH.


other cars I'd swap for are a Vauxhall Zafira diesel (again, low mileage and FSH, '02 onwards).

Rob
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rwilson_ie wrote:P.S. will also consider a swap for a post '01 diesel Scenic with low miles and FSH.



other cars I'd swap for are a Vauxhall Zafira diesel (again, low mileage and FSH, '02 onwards).

Rob
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Thanks mate, same to you. :) I got the looks but not the power, got a thirst for power now and cant be bothered to waste money upping the rev1 when your starting at a better baseline with the rev3! Plus yours is exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of. :)

Have you got any more pics of the front mate? I cant quite make out the front bumper bit in front of the wheels, is that a hole there? Could do with a better pic of the corner.

Noticed a few chips on the front, whats the rest of the paintwork like? I was considering a full re-sray anyway but not sure yet since it may be a while before I could afford that after buying the car!!

How are the bodykit parts attached? Glued, bolted on? Was even considering swapping my bumper for yours, depends how easy it would be to take them off and swap.

Is yours a dark red? It looks like its somewhere between my dark red and the normal brighter super red you get.

Its a sad day indeed when your looking for family cars, and even worst diseal ones! Think you may notice a slight drop in performance there! ;-) Im not quite there yet with having kids, which is why I got to enjoy it while I still can before I follow your footsteps! :(

Cheers.
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dellams wrote:Thanks mate, same to you. :) I got the looks but not the power, got a thirst for power now and cant be bothered to waste money upping the rev1 when your starting at a better baseline with the rev3! Plus yours is exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of. :)

Have you got any more pics of the front mate? I cant quite make out the front bumper bit in front of the wheels, is that a hole there? Could do with a better pic of the corner.

Noticed a few chips on the front, whats the rest of the paintwork like? I was considering a full re-sray anyway but not sure yet since it may be a while before I could afford that after buying the car!!

How are the bodykit parts attached? Glued, bolted on? Was even considering swapping my bumper for yours, depends how easy it would be to take them off and swap.

Is yours a dark red? It looks like its somewhere between my dark red and the normal brighter super red you get.

Its a sad day indeed when your looking for family cars, and even worst diseal ones! Think you may notice a slight drop in performance there! ;-) Im not quite there yet with having kids, which is why I got to enjoy it while I still can before I follow your footsteps! :(

Cheers.


I'm not going to have car back for a few weeks, so won't be able to get more pics til then. The bit on the side is actually a carbon fibre vented section

You might see it a bit more on

http://www.nrdesigns.eu/?view=7

Not sure what that is on the pics but it's not chipped like it looks ! must have been something on camera lense.
If I had to say, I'd say mine is brighter rather than darker.

Didn't look at side skirts or rear spats as that was done by the guy when spraying it - front bumper is just bolted on - fits same as the standard.

Yeah, sad is def the best way to going from a 350fwhp t-bar rwd sports car to a diesel people carrier :(

Thanks
Rob
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Oh right so its vented to help with your cooling? So im guessing if I swapped it to my normal border bumper it may have overheating problems?

Cheers.
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dellams wrote:Oh right so its vented to help with your cooling? So im guessing if I swapped it to my normal border bumper it may have overheating problems?

Cheers.


Not needed for cooling on my car - I just liked the look of it from the front - Dave at Neos who designed it put in a vented section because it was based somewhat on a SARD racecar ( And the SARD car would have needed cooling ).

Rob
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Oh right, cool. Yeah I look forward to seeing it then. :) Also look forward to some more pics when you get her back from the garage.

Cheers.
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Have you also got some pics of the interior? Is it leather seats? And if it is is it the half leather, half cotton type? Thats the type I have now. :)

Got some other questions:

1. When was it last serviced?

(a) Cambelt last done?
(b) Oilchange?
(c) Plugs?
(d) Leads?
(e) Coolant change?

2. Has it got a full service history?

3. Any idea whats is 0-60 is? :)

4. Has it got traction control?

5. Has it got cruise control?

Cheers bud.
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dellams wrote:Have you also got some pics of the interior? Is it leather seats? And if it is is it the half leather, half cotton type? Thats the type I have now. :)

Got some other questions:

1. When was it last serviced?

(a) Cambelt last done?
(b) Oilchange?
(c) Plugs?
(d) Leads?
(e) Coolant change?

2. Has it got a full service history?

3. Any idea whats is 0-60 is? :)

4. Has it got traction control?

5. Has it got cruise control?

Cheers bud.


Yep, it's the half leather version.

Everything was done on engine rebuild ! Doesn't have a FSH, as I done all my own servicing and I got from a trader in UK, who took it as a trade-in. So, not sure of history before me. Only issues I had with it was the alternator and window regulator - both of which were sorted.

It doesn't have traction or cruise control and I've never timed the 0-60 - I posted the RR readouts of the fwhp at 347 and that was before the rebuild.

So, once this last issue is found and sorted, there's no reason why the boost can't be raised (but I don't have $$$ to go for a standalone and take full advantage of the built engine.

Rob
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Doh, sorry having another blonde moment there! :) Of course they have been done on the rebuild! lol
So I guess that includes the coolant too?

Sorry, what do you mean by go standalone?

Cheers.
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