[Mk2] [Turbo] !!! REV2 Turbo Mappable ECU !!!

[JMR_AW11]

I very much doubt a virus has got into the program.

it may well be that chart29.exe has failed heuristic analysis in your anti virus SW.

I need to find out why this is.

Chart29.exe is written in Visual Basic (so are lots of viruses) so I guess that's a bad start.

Also it has a fileopen *.mr2 function which may look suspicious to AV software as *.mr2 is not a normal file extension.

Also it has a window capture function which may appear dodgy as this could be seen as a security threat (in reality it's there so you can easily copy and paste the traces to a file).

Maybe even the name of the file is suspicious? chart29.exe

Anti Virus programs don't like small programs written in visual basic. IMO this is because they can't realistically do much in the way of deep analysis as VB is a high level language.

I'll try changing the *.MR2 file extension and I'll remove the screen capture command and see if that helps.

[PFrazier]

My software found this--W32 Virut.U
It was found in this file Rev2_ECU\is-D4LOL.tmp

[JMR_AW11]

My software found this--W32Virut.U in file Rev2_ECU\is-D4LOL.tmp

I don't know what that means TBH. (but it does sound scary! )

I'm guessing it's a temporary file used by the install program, innosetup.

I'm using innosetup to create the main install file (innosetup packages all my files into one install file called dataview.exe)

However, I've scanned everything with Zonelabs AV and it appears OK.

I even downloaded the file from my link and retested it and it seems OK.

However, someone else has PMd me and said that my main app chart29.exe also gets detected as a virus!


My guess is that it's your AV engine getting scared about small files written in visual basic. Or maybe your PC already has a dormant virus that can exploit innosetup when it installs a new (innocent) program.

I've put up a new version with *.MR2 replaced by *.txt and I've removed the screen capture button from the GUI and I've renamed the file chart29.exe to chart.exe.

http://www.jmrhzu.btinternet.co.uk/Rev2 ... aview2.exe

If that doesn't work then I'm going to have to find out how to arrange my VB programs so they don't look like possible malware.

I'm also going to try some different AV software on my PC to see if it's been zapped by something my current AV can't detect.

[mrfil13]

Thats better, tried it on both my computers with avast AV and hasnt moaned at all this time.

[JMR_AW11]

Thats better, tried it on both my computers with avast AV and hasnt moaned at all this time.

That's good....

However, I've deleted both install links as a precaution.

I'll post up a new version after I've thoroughly scanned all my PCs for viruses. I'm also going to upgrade my innosetup installer to the latest version as that should be more secure against infection etc.

Thanks to both of you for the reports about the virus warnings as I think I need to get a bit wiser about virus threats.

[darryl_p]

not wishing to promote any virus software over any other, but the Antivir one ....free for personal use is the best i've found and personally use it, and happy to recommend it to anyone.

updated regulary as well. even fine for vista, which lots of the free ones dont seem so happy with.

[PFrazier]

I use Norton.
It caught and removed the virus before it had a chance to infect my computer.
I deleted the dataviewer program and scanned my computer, no other problems were found.

[darryl_p]

personally i think norton aint up to much...

i work for a ftse plc company and the number of personal home computers that staff ask us to clean up, i can only remember one not being 'protected' by norton anti virus. and the number we have seen is approaching tripple digits.

a nice case of a large company being able to sway the market i think.

[PFrazier]

I have used Norton for years and have never had a virus etc... get past it.


Back on topic now. Keep up the good work on the ECU project Jeremy.

[stiggy]

Norton is probably the worst anti-virus product on the market. Shortly followed by Mcaffe, which is also utter poo. Get AVG antivirus. Not only is it free, it's actually a reputable piece of software.

Nice work on the ECU Jeremy, this should be a breakthrough product. Have you considered doing pre-built maps, once you're through with the testing? Seems to work on the 200sx, where there are stage 1,2 and 3 remaps for the standard ECU depending on the mods you've got.

What's actually involved in flashing a ECU with a map, once it's been upgraded?

[raptor95GTS]

and this has nothing to do with the ECU so keep it on topic

[TUBBY-DEUCE]

i really need to know what sort of price this will be, and whether on exchange basis etc, and when the production date for this and product turnaround etc etc i dont want this to become available and ive spent all my money really been looking forward to this peice of kit

[PFrazier]

Any updates on the road testing?

[spowy]

As PFrazier asked any further comments on how the road testing is going

[Gersen]

Any updates on the road testing?

The short answer is .... yes....it's update time!

Apologies but for some reason my topic reply notification doesn't appear to be working and I had no idea that people were wondering.........

Long story short is that the ECU road testing is now done. It has covered over 1200 miles on the standard ignition and fuel maps. It should be getting mapped in the next 3 weeks or so.

A couple of minor problems have slowed us down a bit......

The first was that person I shall hence forth refer to as the "Sucker of the Great Satans Scaly Lizard Tumescence" who in his breaks from his chief occupation (namely the enthusiastic fellating of Beelzebub) gave the world a self replicating piece of code otherwise known as the Virut-A virus.

Both Jeremy and myself had a week of nightmares thanks to this feckless, and despicable person of illegitimate birth.

May his member rot and drop off before he is drowned in the excrement of dogs.

My sincerest apologies if you were effected in anyway by this. Norton looked straight through it (do Symantec exclusively employee Turks? edit - this would be the modern location of Troy folks).

Fortunately it was relatively easy to get rid of in the end but we lost alot of time sorting things out.

Secondly, I've need some minor issues with the car attended to prior to the rolling road to make sure she is in 100% tip top shape mechanically speaking (trust me you want the peace of mind that comes with knowing you did everything you could when you first hear your pride and joy being run at full tilt on the rolling road!).

To whit

-->Alternator rattle
-->Turbo support bracket
-->Oil drip from turbo drain (now fixed I think - cheers Luthor1)
-->Engine mount knocking

I wanted the car looked over by someone very familiar with them so I asked James at 3S but sadly he wasn't able to fit me in for a fortnight so we've been sitting on our hands a bit
(it was booked in for Monday 18th on Monday the 4th - hence the delay in proceedings).

However Jeremy has been far from idle and has put the finishing touches to the mapping interface so that it is ready to go.

Once I know the car is 100% ready (ie back from 3S) for the rolling road torture she'll be booked in for mapping. This seems to be about a 2-3 week wait.

Assuming no problems I should have a mapped and finished project in around 3 weeks.

In between then there will be more logs available (ie once I have the car back from 3S).

Sorry for the delay folks but we've basically lost two weeks with the wait for getting the car into 3S (why are the competant people always busy? ) and the Demon Deepthroater

[PFrazier]

Thanks for the update.


My Norton caught the little bug.

[Munnsy]

well looking good, gettiing pretty excited now.
Well i hope the car turns out to be ok for the little blast onm the rollers, and look forward to the results after the mapping.

Forgive me if its been asked already but do you have any idea on the cost of one unit yet or is it still early days for this??#

Keep it up guys, looking and sounding really posotive

[mrfil13]

Im having problems with the reply notification as well, if i havent replied to near enough every other response it will give up notifying me.


Thats just plain unlucky with the virus problem, damn little scrotes.

Have you tried out the little lcd display at all, was interested in that for showing live info such as knock, temps and MPG.

[Gersen]

Forgive me if its been asked already but do you have any idea on the cost of one unit yet or is it still early days for this??

Please bear in mind that I am nothing to do with the manufacture or sale of these things and that I am just here as an enthusiast helping Jeremy to test and refine his product.

Also bear in mind that this project is not finished. The reason we are doing this testing is to find out if any changes need to be made and what refinements need to be carried out in order to get this finished. Without knowing how much more work needs to be done a price can't be put down.

And finally bear in mind that for these to be sold here will require Jeremy to have affiliate status (I believe).

All that being said I believe that Jeremy is aiming to be able to supply you with a plug and play solution for around the £450 mark. This would be on an exchange basis. The unit takes about 5 minutes to fit and works immediately ie you can drive your car there and then on the standard map.

Please, please, please, please do not take this as a final and definite price as it isn't. It's just me trying to give you guys the best figure I can.

There will probably be an advantage to some sort of group buy initially as if Jeremy knows he can definitely build a larger batch then this should reduce the manufacturing time per unit a bit.

What is being worked on now is the path for the changes you will want to make. Some will want to remap the fuel and ignition while others may just want to, say for the sake of argument, remove the speed limiter and move fuel cut for now and do mapping later.

A small number of us are competent enough and have access to a dyno cell to be able to map a car themselves. The software for doing this already exists and is just one of the things that Jeremy is finishing. The vast majority of us will want to take our cars to tuners that can do this for us. What we will be doing by mapping my car will be giving you a person or company to go to that you know has already done this. This will not restrict you from doing it yourself or from having someone else do it for you in any way. We're are just giving you someone to go to that will have experience of the ECU and produced the results (that I'll post when we do this) that you have read here.

This "full access" to the fueling and ignition maps is what Jeremy is calling "Level 3". It will allow you or your tuner to make all the changes that are possible with this system.

Because someone not knowing what they were doing could use this level of access to make changes that could potentially damage the engine there will also be ways to make changes that restrict the possibility of doing something stupid.

The idea is that common changes that people would want to make would be accessible by a more user friendly bit of software. Changes like rpm limit, if and when fuel cut happens, when and if the T-VSV activates, if and when the speed limiter kicks in, could be changed from selectable values. (There are many more things that can be changed - the above are merely examples)

The display module is still a prototype and Jeremy is working on using a matrix style display so graphical gauges can be displayed. At the moment it's at the prototype stage were as the ECU is in a final hardware form and it's the software side of things that are requiring the time.

It will be able to display anything the ECU measures (and more since the ECU has inputs for things like wideband lamda, EGT, IC temps etc etc) but this all requires the unit to be hard coded in machine code into the displays electronic brain which takes time and testing.

When it is complete it will be a plug in extra for the ECU ie if you bought your ECU first and then decided later you wanted the display you could do this.

We are going through the process of fitting, testing, mapping and running the car so that we can iron out any niggles.

This weekend we have been upgrading the bootloader in the ECU with more advanced error checking routines and loading and saving different maps to the ECU.

Oh and expect video of the real time readouts from the car soon

[Gersen]

A quick round my block trip (160 seconds) to demonstrate the logger front end.

Scuse the choppy vid [edit 3.5 fps apparently] (and the fact I did the whole desktop) but the laptop is a PII 350 and tocuhpads are a PITA to set up my video rocording software

Data Logger Video Download