[Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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phil-p
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[Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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Hi there. i am not sure which one this should be in here or electrics but here goes. I have had a quick search but nothing came up. I have a rev 2 turbo and i want to get rid of the afm and i have heard that some people on here use the rev 3 ecu a map sensor and a ait sensor, but i am just wondering how i do this. If anyone has any info plz could you tell me what you know or how i could find out how to do this.

Cheers Phil
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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If you search on here then youll find more info. It involves replcaing the ECU and fitting Rev3 injectors, ait sensor, MAT sensor, ignitor and MAP sensor. These are all fairly easy. You then have to change some wireing to the ECU. This can be tricky but if you take your time is easy to do. If your interested i have the injectors/Rev3 MAP sensor,ignitor, MAT sensor and air intake sensor for sale. There has been some interest in the parts but nobody has commited to buy yet. If your interested please PM me.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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Just to warn you a lot of people encounter problems when doing this conversion and have actually lost power if it is not done correctly....
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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2Crooky wrote:Just to warn you a lot of people encounter problems when doing this conversion and have actually lost power if it is not done correctly....


mmmm, part of that is true....nothing was wrong with the way others and my car was setup or installed...rev3 ecu just doesnt run right for numerous reasons.....mainly above 6k rpm....tho mine had a massive power drop after 5k rpm, lol...
fixed on the power FC tho.

id say do the conversion if you plan to go striaght to an apexi power FC....
if not, forget this, and get the car converted for a link G3....less of a conversion needed.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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All mine have been fine! \:D/
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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Skywalker wrote:All mine have been fine! \:D/


tho you will note that even rory wasnt sure he ever took it past 6k rpm before he fitted that power fc installed....and nick was running a huge ct26 hybrid which could of helped matters....

mine was rewired by 2bar tuning and ROGUE of all places and i still had issues.....

the running of the car was perfect, smoother than on a rev2 ecu, tho high rpm something just wasnt quite right.

ive no idea how many more youve done luke, but id love to know what you and the others have done differently for some to work, and not others.
still an on going mystery if you ask me....

tho i will test out the rev3 ecu with my new rev3 inlet cam, see if its any better.
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Yeah we did definitely test Rorys car right up to redline with the stock ECU. just last weekend infact!

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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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well dont know what your doing different to ROGUE, 2BAR tuning and 3S then, lol....
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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I'm in the process of converting my rev2 to rev3 and still haven't been able to satisfy myself about all the differences between the two. For example, I posted a query in the 'electrical' forum a fortnight ago and haven't had any replies :( There seems to be a TPS change too that I have never seen anyone make reference to and I don't know how critical this is. Sometimes I think I'm going backwards rather than forwards!

PS the electrical query is here http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=84864 if anyone can help 8)
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Dex you should keep it in the modifications section. Youll get a lot more help then. I dont think many people look in the electrical secsion and what your doing is a mod.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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Would the conversion work if i used a greddy emanage on it and put the rev 3 head on it? or should i just leave it alone? Does the afm restrict my power and if so what to? I just want to prove people wrong because i have the gt4 185 and people are telling me it cant be done for the power i want, about 450 500 ish hopefully.

Cheers Phil
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Hi there. I have just done a search on this, and now i am more confused on what i have to do and y they dont work, and what i have to disconect. cos i have read so much now i am just confused. ](*,) i click on links and they dont work anymore

Plz could u tell me what is involved with this, and what i have to do plz. I want to run the emanage aswell. I am a mechanic so doing it isnt a problem i am just confused.

Cheers Phil
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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Being confused isn't a surprise on this subject, I'm having difficulty figuring out what to swap due to the lack of accurate information and conflicting stuff on the internet.

You are actually better off going from a ST185 to ST205 (am I right here?) as there is better information about it available then the MR2 rev2 to rev3 swap. I have some notes I have made about the UK spec ST205 ecu loom that may help and I can send them to you if you pm me your e-mail address.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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Cheers. i have tried lookin on the gt4oc and there is less info on there and somone told me to look on here, most people on there only think about motecs and stuff and say it cant be done without a standalone. Cheers ill send u a pm

Cheers Phil
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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I did the rev2 to a rev3 ecu conversion on my car last year i just used the looms off a rev3, and i have not had a problem with my car going up to the red line and i am still running rev2 cams only thing i am using is a turbo ,sensors etc off a rev3 turbo,it must be ok as i run a 12.158-1/4mile in the car.Had the looms off gtschris and at a good price.Paul
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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Cheers. I am just goin to swap the pins about for the ecu and ill have to re wire for the new sensors. What did you do with the TVIS? How long did it take you to do the conversion?


Cheers Phil
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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paul t wrote:I did the rev2 to a rev3 ecu conversion on my car last year i just used the looms off a rev3, and i have not had a problem with my car going up to the red line and i am still running rev2 cams only thing i am using is a turbo ,sensors etc off a rev3 turbo,it must be ok as i run a 12.158-1/4mile in the car.Had the looms off gtschris and at a good price.Paul


How much NOS are you using to get 12.1 1/4 mile ?
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phil-p wrote:Cheers. I am just goin to swap the pins about for the ecu and ill have to re wire for the new sensors. What did you do with the TVIS? How long did it take you to do the conversion?


Cheers Phil


Hi i did it when the engine was out as i put a turbo into a na,i removed flaps in the tvis.Paul
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] Rev 2, changing to rev 3 ecu?

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SW20Paul wrote:
paul t wrote:I did the rev2 to a rev3 ecu conversion on my car last year i just used the looms off a rev3, and i have not had a problem with my car going up to the red line and i am still running rev2 cams only thing i am using is a turbo ,sensors etc off a rev3 turbo,it must be ok as i run a 12.158-1/4mile in the car.Had the looms off gtschris and at a good price.Paul


How much NOS are you using to get 12.1 1/4 mile ?


Hi i was using 150 bhp jets as i had no 3rd on my car and going from 2nd to 4th :)
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