Fitting new rear arches

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Tiger Tim
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Fitting new rear arches

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When you are replacing the rear arches do you cut out the rusty bits & weld the new panel on top of what's left & after grinding down the weld, hide the lip with a skim of filler or do you try & get the cut exactly to allow you to butt weld the new panel to the old. The first option would be the easiest for me but a friend has restored a Fiat 128 3p & he butt welded all the repair pieces. What have others done?.

Tim
AndyBrad
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Re: Fitting new rear arches

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First option for me, I brazed the new panel and now I'm rubbing the filler back. I suppose it depends what condition your arches are in and where you can find good metal
un1eash
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Re: Fitting new rear arches

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I'll be butt welding mine when i finally get round to doing them.
b2hbm
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Re: Fitting new rear arches

Post by b2hbm »

First option for me as well. With the profile it's hard to cut'n'shut exactly to get a butt weld.

I used a joddler to put a step in the new metal so the final surfaces line up exactly. After you've ground the welds flush there's very little filler in the final arch and it's quite a strong job.
classic mk1

Re: Fitting new rear arches

Post by classic mk1 »

Never butt weld 2 thin pieces together, its extremely difficult to control the temp of the weld even more so if using mig. If using a mig use 0.6 wire with gas, overlap the sections to be welded . Using welding clamps to keep the joint tightly closed tack weld at close intervals. Then keeping the heat build up to a minimum first weld at front of the arch then the rear to much heat in the panel and you will create a dent or buckle. Dont be tempted to use gase less wire as you will strugle to fine tune the welder and end up with too much heat and weld to grind off. If the thickness of the material to be welded is about 2-3mm and above butt welding is possible.
If the joint / overlap is pull together tightly when welding and the weld ground flush the job will only require a thin skim of filler and you wont notice its been overlapped.
Ad Mayo
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Re: Fitting new rear arches

Post by Ad Mayo »

Here's a few pics of how I did mine. Basically the easiest way. I had to build a new inner arch as you can see in the pics. The line around the arch is were we welded the new arch to. Also using clamps you can get the arch to sit were you want before you start welding.
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Tiger Tim
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Thanks

Post by Tiger Tim »

Thanks for all the replies. Thinking of having a go myself. Can Arc weld quite well but haven't used the Mig very much. Must get in some practice before I attack the car.

Thanks,

Tim
classic mk1

Re: Fitting new rear arches

Post by classic mk1 »

Hi, i wouldnt recommend arc welding on thin material. You will find it impossible to control the weld pool and end up with more holess than wing. As people have already suggested to you brazing or mig are the prefered methods base on their previous experiences.
Tiger Tim
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Ooops

Post by Tiger Tim »

Sorry, I wasn't suggesting I Arc weld the panels - just that I can arc weld fairly good but haven't much experience of Mig or using lighter guage steel.

T.
nick_w
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