[Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

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planted1
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[Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by planted1 »

my turbo,having done less than 1k miles has more shaft play than hugh heffners playboy mansion. :evil:

i was warned against buying one,but because it was cheap i ignored the advice..........oh how i wish id listened #-o .
anyway,
i need to get myself a turbo thats good for around 350bhp at the fly
i have a ported standard ct26 manifold i also have a t3/4 tubular manifold
my rebuilt engine is more than up to the job,and fuelling has also been uprated,all to be controlled by a link ecu,which i understand allows me to ditch the afm.
can any body suggest a good turbo,moneys getting a bit tighter so no monster wallett eating turbo can be considered.
ct20 mebbe,or a "proper t3/4"
any ideas please :thumleft:
-:[KM]:-
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by -:[KM]:- »

How much play is in it??

More to ask....
How comes you checked? Is it losing boost? Smoking?

I've an XS Power one, and I've got to say I can't imagine going back to the CT20b. It reminds me of my old CT26, but with better power.

I've still got my manifold-CT20bTurbo-Downpipe assembly in the shed - all taped up...

Should I keep it?
planted1
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by planted1 »

theres about 4mm play up and down and the same side to side.

when i removed the turbo and downpipe all in one,i tipped it at an angle and about two table spoonsfull of oil dripped out.

the exhaust manifold and downpipe are covered in a black gooey sooty/oily residue.
the car had been blowing clouds of white smoke on startup,took 15 mins for it to settle,but every time you dipped the throttle clouds of smoke again.

yesterday,started it up left it idling for 15 mins,then it overheated,the temp gauge was constant,bang on in fact,but it would be as the water temp sensor is reporting water temp as normal,
the reason it overheated i think was because it had burnt so much oil over the past month that their was insufficient oil to aid cooling,
so,
strip out today(holiday)and their is literally oil everywhere,exhaust,downpipe,exhaust manifold,inside the turbo.

if i were you i would hang on to your original manifold and downpipe , just in case.
:thumleft:
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by RyanRs »

4mm :shock: if them blades had hit the housing and snapped off, you could have been looking at a new engine!!!!!

no warranty etc at all?
-:[KM]:-
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by -:[KM]:- »

4mm :shock:

Suprised your not digging blades out the pistons!! And casting shards! Saying that the chargecooler would accomodate a lot of that, especially if there is a lot of oil...


What boost were you at?


Are the ringlands OK? :-k
planted1
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by planted1 »

trouble is it was from auto boost in the usa,so i would have to return it at my expense,then theres no garunteeing they wont say its oil starvation or something or other.

boost was set at 12 psi,pretty low really,and it was steady.

the ringlands i havent checked,the engines coming out anyway as ive finished my rev 2 engine to go in place of,so when i get it out it will be interesting to see.

unfortunately ill just have to wear the cost.

i brought it before the mega posts of back end last year,re xs power etc.
buy cheap,buy twice.

steve.
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by PFrazier »

Have you looked at an ATS CT27?
http://www.atsracing.net/CT27.htm
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by splashnatz »

ct27 is pretty similar to the ct20b


probably best if you can save the rest of the set-up and just get a new t3/t4 turbo to bolt in place of the xs one.


maybe try Sbits, GTS Chris or Tim, see what they say ?
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by skipp123 »

have you looked at the ko racing website they have some very very nice products on there bit £££y but u get what u pay for mate...

get it done more expensivly/propperly to start and in the long run ul save time and money.

gt28???
gt3071r???
planted1
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by planted1 »

thanks for all the ideas and advice fellas :thumleft: ,
i think im going to go for a c20 ,well ok a t3/t4,or mebbe a gt28
oh dammit,now look what youve done #-o

thanks
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by paul port »

Have you considered sending the Turbo-XS unit to a UK turbo rebuilder?

Maybe the shell and core are good, and it just needs re-assembling correctly.

At least get an opinion first...

Paul
planted1
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by planted1 »

hi paul,

i must admit i hadnt considered it before this evening,
tbh the rest of the turbo looks quite well made,but,looks can be deceiving and i think i will never have the confidence in it i hoped i would have.

it wont end up on ebay either,i'd rather bin it than pass it on to someone.

ive had someone offer me a gt4082 genuine garrett,but im not sure whether this would be suitable,could anyone shine some light please. :thumleft:
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by nisnos »

A gt4088 is feccccckinn huuuuge mate

You would need a massive fuel system circa 1000 pounds alone!
twin plate clutch (minimum)
no desire to boost before 5k etc etc etc

VERY NICE the gt4088 but far too big for 99% of applications - a gt35r is pushing the street limits IMO
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by nisnos »

sorry meant 4082
planted1
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by planted1 »

thats a damn shame....... :(

the guy also gave a very reasonable shipping cost as well

cheers nisnos,

ill keep looking :thumleft:
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by Turbo-G »

GT28rs kit from Tim @ tb-developments. Good for 300-350bhp and also modern in technology and design. I have one on my rev3 and absoloutely love it. Im on stock fueling with a built bottom end and boost increase etc etc and it pulls like a train. Very torquey and quick spooling.

If you want 350hp a ct20 is the wrong turbo.. might as well go for a dual ball bearing Garett unit, at least you know you haven't cut corners in terms of build quality and design.

Check out the range at...
xxxx :thumleft:
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by a16vwn1 »

ive got a xxxx gt2860rs kit for sale, its an external wastgate version.

pm me if your interested

wayne
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by EarL »

nisnos wrote:...a gt35r is pushing the street limits IMO

*evil laugh* Hehehehehehehehehehe :twisted:

Turbo-G wrote:GT28rs kit from Tim @ tb-developments. Good for 300-350bhp and also modern in technology and design. I have one on my rev3 and absoloutely love it. Im on stock fueling with a built bottom end and boost increase etc etc and it pulls like a train. Very torquey and quick spooling.

If you want 350hp a ct20 is the wrong turbo.. might as well go for a dual ball bearing Garett unit, at least you know you haven't cut corners in terms of build quality and design.

Check out the range at...
xxxx :thumleft:

There speaks the voice of reason. Listen to this man and you won't go far wrong. :wink:

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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by GTS-ANDY »

planted1 wrote:hi paul,

i must admit i hadnt considered it before this evening,
tbh the rest of the turbo looks quite well made,but,looks can be deceiving and i think i will never have the confidence in it i hoped i would have.

it wont end up on ebay either,i'd rather bin it than pass it on to someone.

ive had someone offer me a gt4082 genuine garrett,but im not sure whether this would be suitable,could anyone shine some light please. :thumleft:


gt4082 :mrgreen:
planted1
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Re: [Mk2] [Turbo] i need a new turbo(xs one died)what would you suggest

Post by planted1 »

ah......i see

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