Tim Bill and IMOC-UK

[ryan]

So are the spies going to be sent out to meets anymore to check if Ed and Tim are the same person?

As for the '<edit>' comment Anna, well you're just getting personal. I'm sure a formal warning would be appropriate for this?

You threatened me with a formal warning for saying skinthespin was 'shitstirring' for christs sake

I think you lot are milking this legal action thing for all you can get, to direct as much venom at Tim as possible; the way in which you jump back on this thread so quickly only proves this.

So will IMOC be 'cap-in-hand' at JAE due to the millions spent on legal defence? But why let the truth get in the way of a good story eh?

Why oh why did all this get dragged back up again

[Leon.]

Why oh why did all this get dragged back up again

For the same reason you keep posting!

[ryan]

Why oh why did all this get dragged back up again

For the same reason you keep posting!

^^^Doesn't make sense^^^

So do you get a free beefburger at JAE for bringing this back up?

[Leon.]

Everyone likes to add their bit, why not...?

I do, you do...

Its great entertainment too

[ryan]

Everyone likes to add their bit, why not...?

I do, you do...

Its great entertainment too

Entertainment?


Well, i'm not even going to reply to that Leeroy

[Leon.]

You just did

[Lauren]

So are the spies going to be sent out to meets anymore to check if Ed and Tim are the same person?

As for the '<edit>' comment Anna, well you're just getting personal. I'm sure a formal warning would be appropriate for this?

You threatened me with a formal warning for saying skinthespin was 'shitstirring' for christs sake

I think you lot are milking this legal action thing for all you can get, to direct as much venom at Tim as possible; the way in which you jump back on this thread so quickly only proves this.

So will IMOC be 'cap-in-hand' at JAE due to the millions spent on legal defence? But why let the truth get in the way of a good story eh?

Why oh why did all this get dragged back up again

for your information the world does not revolve around Tim. There is no spying going on, that would be just pure idiocy to suggest that.

we are not milking anything at all, we are just frustrated that for some reason Tim will not let us post the correspondance we have had with him. The manner in which Tim has conducted himself is wholly unnaceptable. We are now having to spend money to safeguard against any possible future legal action in the future. The money will be spent and it will affect how much we have in the way of funds that we'd rather spend on JAE etc. whatever you say we are at the moment personally liable and after all we work for the club for no recompense whatsoever, so why should we have to put our homes at risk just because somebody who has seriously flouted the rules on numerous occassions and cannot accept a considered decision?

[simmo490]

tim is slowly but surly ruining this place, look at all the hard working members that have stepped down.

he knows what he is doing.

does anyone know if he is going to JAE, i for one want to "chat" to him face to face yes i do mean chat just to clear few things up for my own mind.

if he is coming maybe he can give people the full story in person?

simmo

[EdMR2]

Well Anna you say that you'd have reported name calling if the role was reversed. Well guess what I’ve reported it. Lets see how quickly that gets swept under the mat.

The following imoc rules were violated.

No Offensive or Abusive posts: This includes anything that is offensive to the members on any grounds whatsoever. Posts of this nature will not be tolerated (please note this list is not exclusive):
Sexism
Racism
Homophobia
Xenophobia
This includes any abusive, offensive, discriminatory or prejudiced comments aimed at a particular individual or group.

No Flaming, Personal attacks, "flame bait": IMOC-UK is a friendly community of MR2 enthusiasts and such posts will be deleted on sight and users moderated accordingly.


This is a much greater violation of the rules that Tim ever did, and he got formal warnings for less. I personal feel this deems a Formal Warning against your actions as you obviously feel that they don't apply to you being a former member of staff in this forum. This is the countless time you've broke the imoc rules in as many weeks. Lets see if upholding the rules applies to everyone.

This is by the book as you committee member put it. Lets see if your being bias or not here! Lets also see if a thread is created to discredit that individual because the committee couldn’t get there own way!

Just to add most of the committee of moderators on this club have broke the above rules in this thread at one time or another. I've gone through this thread and reported all of those actions. I hope to see a thread "Committee Vs Imoc Members" started shortly to talk about this action.

Edmr2

ps, you remember Anna, the guy with the long hair sat next to you at the meet, not Tim!

[EdMR2]

Simmo if you want to "Chat" Pm me and I’ll send over his address. Tim's always said he'll openly talk about what happened just remember if it turns into anything more than a chat you don't have a computer to hide behind like most of the heros on this club!

You wander why he won't let the legal formalities be publish, everything he’s said that factual on here has been removed or edited. What makes you think the committee are going to play by the rules this time and publish everything without adding a bias edge to it.

Edmr2.

[gavinl]

Simmo if you want to "Chat" Pm me and I’ll send over his address. Tim's always said he'll openly talk about what happened just remember if it turns into anything more than a chat you don't have a computer to hide behind like most of the heros on this club!

You wander why he won't let the legal formalities be publish, everything he’s said that factual on here has been removed or edited. What makes you think the committee are going to play by the rules this time and publish everything without adding a bias edge to it.

Edmr2.

Tims has a website, publish his copies of the correspondence on that

[gavinl]

Seeing as you're such a helpful chap, have you been so helpful as to notify Company (no SC299391) that you (as a sole trader) are posing as them?

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/wcfra ... ompanyInfo
search for SC299391

It's just you claim to be a company on your webshite

My aim for this company is to provide a level of service that was the highest it could possibly be...

when you are no such thing. The company is not registered to you.
If someone mimicked my company, i'd be pretty peed off
But you're a nice guy, so i'm sure you've told them.

HTH

What's Tim's response on this matter edMR2?

[redeye32uk]

tim is slowly but surly ruining this place, look at all the hard working members that have stepped down.
simmo

Er ... Not one says there stepping down due to Tim, i think there all bigger than that..... They will all be missed and have put in a lot of time to the club but to say its Tim, please get a life people an move on

I now feel it's time to move on and concentrate on other projects.
Anna

I have too many outside commitments to give the forum
Malcolm

I have thoroughly enjoyed working with everyone in the background but I have now run out of steam and it's time for someone new to take over

Too much going on for me to give my full attention to it.

I have come to the decsion that moderating is just not for me. There is a lot that go's on behind the scenes of IMOC and it really does take up alot of your free time up.

[EdMR2]

I don't really want to get into the speaking for Tim role. He’s a friend of mine yes and i do a little work for him on the website side of things. But I’m far from an employee etc. When he returned after this thread died down the first time he asked me not to post or draw any attention to him as he just wanted to get back to helping people on this forum. Since he came back he’s had countless people round so he can help fit items for nothing more than a thank you.

But since he’s decided its best to leave, because regardless of intentions or promises to the committee to contribute to the forum in a positive way he’s been hounded by them for every little thing that could be deemed an excuse for a complaint. I know him talking to me about he was scared to even post at some times as he didn’t know how it would be taken and get him into trouble. Pm’s were sent to Benf trying to find a happy medium, yet still the witchunt continued. Yes he did wrong in the past and I don’t agree to most of the formal warning either like the one he got for helping another trader (which was quickly edited I noticed a few pages back) but he came back to contribute to the forum and help this club, but because of certain committee members and there immature grudge attitude this hasn’t happened and has just lead to more arguments on this club. There is also a lot of people starting to question the administration of this club and how its run. After the attitudes of a few committee members I think there should be a few more stepping down. Through all this the only person who remained mature was BEN F and I think that says a lot about his character and personality. I personally feel we should dump the whole committee and start again, because there far from fair and professional. And yes like it or not this has turned into a huge conspiracy with a lot of the members now knowing everything that’s gone on and any excuse to remove Tim as a member.

I guess publishing the information on his website is one way to go, but then imoc would just disagree regardless of fact or not and its back to square one. Plus its yet again dragging it on when i know he just wants to forget about the matter and get on with life.

Regarding xxxx LTD who I believe are a roofing company they already know about Tim, as there was some returned items sent to them by mistake a few years back. The companies’ house only includes LTD. companies as Tim is a sole trader it doesn't apply. If he expanded to become a LTD company then he would have to change him name to TB Automotive Developments or something like that.

Ed.

[dude541]

Seeing as you're such a helpful chap, have you been so helpful as to notify Company (no SC299391) that you (as a sole trader) are posing as them?

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/wcfra ... ompanyInfo
search for SC299391

It's just you claim to be a company on your webshite

My aim for this company is to provide a level of service that was the highest it could possibly be...

when you are no such thing. The company is not registered to you.
If someone mimicked my company, i'd be pretty peed off
But you're a nice guy, so i'm sure you've told them.

HTH

and all this from someone who dosent have a grudge with tim?????
you really should get out more!

[LimeyMk1]

Your reports have been noted Ed. I only came on today to look for a wing for a friend and found this shitstorm, I reall CBA to p1$$ around with moderating it at this precise moment so will go back to working on my car and come back this evening.

[ryan]

tim is slowly but surly ruining this place, look at all the hard working members that have stepped down.

he knows what he is doing.

does anyone know if he is going to JAE, i for one want to "chat" to him face to face yes i do mean chat just to clear few things up for my own mind.

if he is coming maybe he can give people the full story in person?

simmo

LOL, take some Viagra with you, you'll be hard then

So what are you suggesting by a "chat"?

[simmo490]

i mean a chat, i dont like all this computer stuff i want to hear it from the mans mouth, i think allot of other people do too.

i hope he is at JAE so we can sort things out, tell him that it is purly a chat to get things aired, if he wants to bring his SAS mates then do so

like i say its not just me, i would like to hear things from his mouth, and yeh ED why dont you come along to, we can all have a chin wag hey

simmo

[anna]

PMSL

First, sorry to the mods/committee. I don't want to cause more work for you. Perfectly happy to be given a formal warning if it's deemed necessary

Tim - sorry, I shouldn't have insinuated you are a <edit>. What can I say? I'm a bad person. I apologise unreservedly.

Ed - there is a difference between a company and a sole trader. Tim says his business is a company. I'm afraid this is not true. We had to look this up to verify if he was a company when Tim was trying to get you in as the agent for his 'company' (actually business) by saying you were an employee of his 'company'. Turns out Tim doesn't have a company - or certainly not one in the name he trades under.
Dude541, it's very easy to find out, anyone can search for bonafide companies on the companies house website. It's good that Tim has informed the real company that he is pretending to be them - i wonder how many random shiny stainless things have ended up at theirs

As for the one kiddy meet - I actually didn't know Tim et al would be there. genuinely. Try see who is written down as coming on the events list - I think Redeye said he'd be there. I had been to the Cov meet the week or two before and met some really great people - had never been before, had a good old chinwag.
I guess I won't go to Kiddy again - I can tell when I'm not welcome.
And Ed - I don't really know who you are, because nobody felt the need to properly introduce themselves to me (i.e. name AND forum name) - except Rhon (good to meet you), and i'd met redeye before (good to meet you again).

Oh - and as for posting in this thread again, I wouldn't have if Tim hadn't felt the need to post

[Speedy]

For gods sake, someone lock or delete this thread.

2nd that earl

If anybody has a problem with this thread, feel free to PM me and explain to me why you would like it removed from public view, or report the posts which you feel are out of order somehow.

I've just been through and moderated the thread as there were posts which were reported. I think that unless there are any other major developments though, I think it should be left to die. Thanks to everybody who has had their say, I'd ask that people don't go over old ground or bring up any personal issues. Please only post up valid questions which you feel need to be answered by somebody (including the moderation team/committee or by another member)