Tim Bill and IMOC-UK

[EdMR2]

imoc doesn't need to give an explanation to whats happened there not at fault.

i've explained what happened.

The terms and conditions state if the rules are broken 3 times the affiliate will lose there affiliate status.

Rules were broken 3 times

Affiliate status removed.

The rules of the forum were followed to the letter. Legal advise was given on both sides because imoc uk wasn't following the rules set out, after a descussion both parties are now following the rules, all done and behind us.

End of story.

Don't see why this keeps getting dragged on.

if you want to remove that part about gtech then please do, my main point of posting was to explain what happened with tim getting back on the forum as he feels that anything he says will be used against him, hes told me not to but i'm going to speak out on his behalf. If gtech has something to say why not just say it under his own name?

I'm going to follow tim's wishes now and not post on this anymore, if you want to get incontact with me please use the PM's, i'm off home now. laters

Ed

[dude541]

Gtech if you’re going to go around the other owner’s club (gt4oc, mr2oc, this forum) stirring up problems I suggest you learn how to change your IP address/Mac address.

Ed, Where is your proof?
IP addresses are not shown to members at all, so suggesting that you know an IP address of a member is a bit far fetched. Only moderators and committee can view this.

Also, Alex (speedy) would like to know why you think MAC addresses are so important... but anyway.

whos to say this was found out through imoc? apparently this same arguement has been going on through various sites,and unlike some people on this site,this HAS been proven via ip address to be the said person above

[gtech]

We are being advised that we shouldn't do this.

so there is the problem, we cant know shame

sorry if i offended you all but it is serrious

dont worry anna this is my last post

its up to him to be honest now

Grow up GTech ffs.

Earl I think you are barking up the wrong tree if you think XFILES is Me (Gtech).... If I have anything to say I say it under my OWN handle and not use some other.

In future make dammed sure you know what you are talking about, if you still think its me lets see your proof......I can assure you 100% its not me.

[gtech]

Gtech if you’re going to go around the other owner’s club (gt4oc, mr2oc, this forum) stirring up problems I suggest you learn how to change your IP address/Mac address.

Ed, Where is your proof?
IP addresses are not shown to members at all, so suggesting that you know an IP address of a member is a bit far fetched. Only moderators and committee can view this.

Also, Alex (speedy) would like to know why you think MAC addresses are so important... but anyway.

whos to say this was found out through imoc? apparently this same arguement has been going on through various sites,and unlike some people on this site,this HAS been proven via ip address to be the said person above

As I said above dude X Files is NOT GTECH once and for all, if you have proof..... Put up or shut up.

[Icsunonove]

There wasn't any threat of closing the forum

letter to the committee saying that it was contract and legally binding to follow the above rule, this was to make if offical and any agreements couldn't be retracted under spite etc in the future.

Ed, I suggest very strongly that if you are going to post on Tim's behalf you get your facts straight first.

But I mean come on lets drop the subject

Why? There are evidently some members that are very unhappy about what's been going on. Unfortunately we can't reveal exactly what's been going on but evidently some information is out in the public domain. I for one am extremely unhappy with the situation as it has already damaged IMOC. Stuff that we need to get done hasn't been because we've been wasting so much time on this issue.

Gtech if you’re going to go around the other owner’s club (gt4oc, mr2oc, this forum) stirring up problems I suggest you learn how to change your IP address/Mac address.

I don't know where you've got your evidence from, but unless you have concrete evidence I suggest you don't make such statements. For one the IP address from which the above posts by Xfiles were made is not one known to us. And IP addresses are not publically visible so I would be interested to know how you know what IP address this has been posted from. I don't know who Xfiles is but it would appear likely that it is a disgruntled member who has set up an alternate account. This is not allowed.

[dude541]

Ed, Where is your proof?
IP addresses are not shown to members at all, so suggesting that you know an IP address of a member is a bit far fetched. Only moderators and committee can view this.

Also, Alex (speedy) would like to know why you think MAC addresses are so important... but anyway.

whos to say this was found out through imoc? apparently this same arguement has been going on through various sites,and unlike some people on this site,this HAS been proven via ip address to be the said person above

As I said above dude X Files is NOT GTECH once and for all, if you have proof..... Put up or shut up.

welcome back
funny how you disapeared while the xfiles account was active!
but now it isnt................

[tonigmr2]

There wasn't any threat of closing the forum, a family member of his who works in the law with contracts advised him to send a letter to the committee saying that it was contract and legally binding to follow the above rule, this was to make if offical and any agreements couldn't be retracted under spite etc in the future. The advice he got was pushing for compensation for other rules broken in the contract but he didn’t act on those. If this was an attempt to cause trouble and affect the club don’t you think he’d have pushed for everything he could get?.

Sounds like a threat to a volunteer club to me. Contract?? FS. This was the crux of the threat then was it? If you don't let me on I will sue you under the 'contract'? He did push for everything didn't he, he's back on here, they'd never have let him otherwise I'm guessing.
T

[tonigmr2]

welcome back
funny how you disapeared while the xfiles account was active!
but now it isnt................

Instead of hunting down someone and making slanderous remarks in public you cannot possibly prove you should reflect there might have not been a forum to do it on.
T

[gtech]

Dude541 you really are an a*&hole ....... As I said and Imoc Admins, put up your proof or shutup.......Xfiles and Gtech are two different people, I have'nt a clue who Xfiles is and its certainly not me, if you think it is, then please by all means publish my IP addres, Oh and that of Xfiles.

I have stated all through this thread my feelings on this matter, I have no need whatsoever to use another handle to say what I want to.

Use a bit of intelligence and go back through the thread and you will see I have spoken my mind from day 1.

Its people such as yourself who go off half-cocked ASSUMING you know everything and in actual fact know very little.

I dont want to argue over this, but believe me you have seriously got it wrong this time round over this name business.

[dude541]

Its people such as yourself who go off half-cocked ASSUMING you know everything and in actual fact know very little.

talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
show us your proof to your allegations!

[Lauren]

God people give the guy a break.
Right here are some facts!

Tim came back onto this forum because of an error in the wording of the terms and conditions contract.

There wasn't any threat of closing the forum, a family member of his who works in the law with contracts advised him to send a letter to the committee saying that it was contract and legally binding to follow the above rule, this was to make if offical and any agreements couldn't be retracted under spite etc in the future. The advice he got was pushing for compensation for other rules broken in the contract but he didn’t act on those. If this was an attempt to cause trouble and affect the club don’t you think he’d have pushed for everything he could get?

He’s already expressed to me that damaging this forum was never going to happen, rather drop the argument than it come to that.

Ed.

Ps, everything I’ve said above is fact and everything is my own words/opinions so don’t get using that against him.

You really need to get your facts straight Ed.

True about a loophole in the wording.

As you confirm above, Tim did make a legal threat when the Committee refused to allow him to return.

As the Committee is run by volunteers the obvious conclusion is that the club would close as a result. Tim was aware of this.

[casio]

Xfiles and Gtech are two different people, I have'nt a clue who Xfiles is and its certainly not me, if you think it is, then please by all means publish my IP addres, Oh and that of Xfiles.

What about -friend2U- that you have been using to stir with on the other forums gtech ?

Disgusting behaviour that is helping to bring imoc into disrepute and making a mockery of the club.

[anna]

Disgusting behaviour that is helping to bring imoc into disrepute and making a mockery of the club.

Interesting sentiment. What do you think of Tim's behaviour seeing as this thread is about him, not gtech.

I have also asked Tim's permission to post the full correspondance between himself and IMOC. He has refused. And I guess even if he agreed, we might not be allowed to post it.

[michael]

Disgusting behaviour that is helping to bring imoc into disrepute and making a mockery of the club.

Ironic that you created a new account to post this too.

*sigh* it's like a playground in here sometimes.

[splashnatz]

i think on the US OC, Bill Strong has the right to basically tell anybody that he decides to "F*** OFF and don't come back". Somebody should be in a similar position of power here. Any way that can be done ?

[markiii]

Disgusting behaviour that is helping to bring imoc into disrepute and making a mockery of the club.

Interesting sentiment. What do you think of Tim's behaviour seeing as this thread is about him, not gtech.

I have also asked Tim's permission to post the full correspondance between himself and IMOC. He has refused. And I guess even if he agreed, we might not be allowed to post it.

obviously more to hide than people would like us to beleive then

[markiii]

i think on the US OC, Bill Strong has the right to basically tell anybody that he decides to "F*** OFF and don't come back". Somebody should be in a similar position of power here. Any way that can be done ?

this is the double edged sword of trying to run a club in an open way for the members. as opposed to a club thats someones own property where they retain that right.

[Tiamat]

i think on the US OC, Bill Strong has the right to basically tell anybody that he decides to "F*** OFF and don't come back". Somebody should be in a similar position of power here. Any way that can be done ?

There are very distinct differences between the set up of the USA OC and IMOC. Also they are massively massively (worth saying it twice) different legal systems.

[splashnatz]

sometimes that is a shame ...

[EarL]

My apologies to GTech if my summations were incorrect. I retract any statement I may have issued.

EarL.