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Re: Problem: Ross piston fitment onto standard con rods??

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SIMON W wrote:sorry about last coment bit below the belt but i did explain all this to you at the rolling road day last week hope it has sunk in this time


Let's put it this way, mate. If you get 2 people telling you slightly different things, one being Fraser the other person being an enthusiast, who would you tend to listen to first? ;)

It's only that Fensport know what they're doing and have had enough engine builds to finance a 3rd world country that I'm finally convinced. No disrespect, but I hear a lot of stories in my travels, and like to hear something pretty concrete before I'm convinced. :D
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lets just hope everybodys block does not start cracking i would not call me a enthusiast
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SIMON W wrote:lets just hope everybodys block does not start cracking i would not call me a enthusiast


The thing is, mate, it's not just high-power motors that will crack. I've seen Rev3s cracking blocks with only just over 300bhp. That's not exactly stratospheric power outputs. Now, if Rev1 and Rev2 cars are prone to this, it's not good news! :(
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Re: Problem: Ross piston fitment onto standard con rods??

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This is really trying my patience now, i've been more than fair with this car and it just keeps letting me down.


Lol ! Pete !! Check out the new yatch I've just bought !!! :lol:

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Until I learn patients again, I'll start working on the MR2 again later in the year !!! :lol:

Oh ! Its this bit that counts !

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Mate, do you have a pic of those pistons? I've never seen coated skirts, believe it or not.


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Bender Unit wrote:
Mate, do you have a pic of those pistons? I've never seen coated skirts, believe it or not.


To save Steve the trouble I have one to hand ....

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Cheers, James.

Is that coated right the way to crown? Is that what's giving it a dullish finish, or is that just the pic?

The Evo ones had a darker coating, up until the bottom ring, but it seems they're intended to serve the same purpose.
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Nice Accord JJ who did you steal it off your Grandad? :tongue:

For those who wonder what JJ looks like, here he is taking it easy. :tongue:

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Bender Unit wrote:Nice Accord JJ who did you steal it off your Grandad? :tongue:

For those who wonder what JJ looks like, here he is taking it easy. :tongue:

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ROFL! :D
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Is that coated right the way to crown? Is that what's giving it a dullish finish, or is that just the pic?


I cant remember exactly how the chap advised it would be coated, but the coat does go all the way to the crown IIRC and then its topped off with the cermic coating on the piston tops.

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Its the coating thats giving the dull finish. Here is one without the coating.

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The Evo ones had a darker coating, up until the bottom ring, but it seems they're intended to serve the same purpose.


From what I understand these coatings can come in various shades / colours but are effectivley the same/similar product at the end of the day.

I wasnt overly fussed getting the skirts done it only cost a few extra quid a piston to have done whilst the crowns were being done. A chap I know reccomended it (the reasons elude me for now) He uses it on his Pro Mod engine which is making 3000bhp so I guess it does something worthwhile (damn my sh*te memory!)
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CJB wrote:Had a reply today from Co-ord Sport:-

=The only modification that needs to be carried out, is to bush the little ends in the rods.





Ohh ffs, when he says bush the little ends in the rod does he mean machine them?? At this stage it looks like i'm going to send the pistons back as I can't get a reply from Ross direct and I don't really feel comfortable machining the pistons going on advice from Chris Wilson via email, I would trust him pretty well and think he's right in his advice to send them back.

JJ wrote:
This is really trying my patience now, i've been more than fair with this car and it just keeps letting me down.


Lol ! Pete !! Check out the new yatch I've just bought !!! :lol:

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Until I learn patients again, I'll start working on the MR2 again later in the year !!! :lol:

Oh ! Its this bit that counts !

http://www.autocarparts.com/featured/ca ... ulleys.jpg

I'll go get me pipe and slippers ! #-o


LOL, good auld hondas. I will say though that the accord coupe looks really good from the back....... shame most people can't see the back of the accord too well in the auld rear view ;)

Hey J, did CJB ask you to drive his Fibreglassed mk2 yet? He's looking for a decent driver......... dunno why he mentioned you though, you can't even flush a toilet properly! :mrgreen: :^o =D>
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Re: Problem: Ross piston fitment onto standard con rods??

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Damn you boys ! :mrgreen:

PMSL !! :lol: Actually, I'm having problems of late holding it it !!! :mrgreen:

James, was going through a couple of old photos and got one of you at a recent qrt mile

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I like what you've done with the single wiper conversion on it !

Oh ! I've got the first images of dinos chargecooler project !! None of the pre rad yet though !! :tongue:

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Pete .... [-( :eye: :clown:
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Re: Problem: Ross piston fitment onto standard con rods??

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LOL ..... nice pictures chaps :mrgreen:

My pistons have a black coating on the skirt then the normal shiny ringland /crown. But as you say, its probably all the same stuff :)
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JJ wrote:
Oh ! I've got the first images of dinos chargecooler project !! None of the pre rad yet though !! :tongue:

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Pete .... [-( :eye: :clown:


JJ, you're out of order mate! I've been keeping this all TOP SECRET, and there you go leaking images of my production model! :shock:

LMAO
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JJ, you're out of order mate! I've been keeping this all TOP SECRET, and there you go leaking images of my production model! :shock:

LMAO


Wow, that's a nice bit of kit Dino. Do you reckon the CC will fit under the standard rear strut brace without the need for much modification and also does the throttle body line up ok? #-o
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Nelo wrote:
Wow, that's a nice bit of kit Dino. Do you reckon the CC will fit under the standard rear strut brace without the need for much modification and also does the throttle body line up ok? #-o


Well, now that the secret is out, I don't mind answering questions on it.

No, the stock brace can't be used, but the new benefit is that you now have a nice big swimming pool on the back of your car! Also, note the "open" design, which means you can easily monitor water levels and bleeding the system is not a problem - just pour more water in. The only downside is that you shouldn't use chlorine in this particular "swimming pool" - I've found that this affects the amount of heat that the water can absorb. :D
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Re: Problem: Ross piston fitment onto standard con rods??

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With such genious design of that chargecooler, what prevents the water from sloshing out on bends? Or is this part of the design to create additional water cooling of the block for high hp applications =D>
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stevecordiner wrote:With such genious design of that chargecooler, what prevents the water from sloshing out on bends? Or is this part of the design to create additional water cooling of the block for high hp applications =D>


I thought of that, and basically we have several baffles in the design in the form of loadsa swimmers that cause enough turbulence in the water for it not to spill out. The only downside is that this adds weight, but that's not too much of an issue as the extra power achieved with this setup easily offsets this. :D
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James, was going through a couple of old photos and got one of you at a recent qrt mile

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I like what you've done with the single wiper conversion on it !


lol looks like senility is setting in old chap, that’s a picture of your disability carriage. :tongue:
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