93 mr2 turbo advice

[BARON]

hello people im new here, i have just arranged to sell my starlet turbo and im really interested in an mr2 turbo, 1993 shape i think.
what bhp are they standard,and what mods are invloved in getting them to 300 bhp

[psmiff]

Rev 2, 220bhp, early 1993. Rev 3, 245bhp, late 1993.

Check out the thread on events, John Noble Dyno day and look at some of the profiles to see what 300bhp takes!

Also knowledge base, engine, gives some good advice.

[BARON]

cheers, think il go with the 93 then as there up in power and supposed to have better handling

[Ian Geary]

The late 1993 cars, known as Rev 3's got the revised handling. You can easily tell them by the one piece spoiler, opposed to the wrap around 3 piece spoiler on earlier Rev 1 & 2 cars.

As for performance, there's a marginal increasein bh/p (well, 10%) but torque is very similar.

Some would say however that with a stock Rev3 is a much better place to start from when seeking big power increases (metal head gasket, larger injectors, MAP not AFM sensor)

But others would say this is complete toilet. There's better minds on here who can discuss it at leisure.

But big restrictions like intercooling and exhaust are the same for both cars, and simple mods like free flowair filter, exhaust, de-cat and a mild boost increase will get you very near 300bh/p without needing internal work done (I did say mild though)

Personally I'd get the best example of MR2 turbo you can afford - service history and regular oil changes are, as ever the thing to look for.

Note, around 1995 the law changed so imported tubbies had to have a catalytic converter to get an MOT. Before this date, you can get away with a decat pipe. Seeing as you're after power this might be useful to know..?

HTH

Ian

[BARON]

cheers ian, il hunt down a good 93 to 94 one then, 300bhp and il be happy(for a while).
as you say a good one is a must. plenty to choose from and i cant wait, wish the boy would hurry up and give me the money for my we gt starlet

[CosmosblueMR2]

Note, around 1995 the law changed so imported tubbies had to have a catalytic converter to get an MOT. Before this date, you can get away with a decat pipe. Seeing as you're after power this might be useful to know..?

HTH

Ian

It's because pre '95 the MOT does not have an emmissions chart for them.
2 ways of getting around this..

1. DONT gut the cat - buy a downpipe instead - keep the cat for putting back on come MOT time.

or 2. as above but have a friendly MOT'ist that will pass it for you with downpipe on (catless)... aslong as you have in your possesion the original downpipe with cat.

[BARON]

im in northern ireland and believe me the mot arent friendly, d##ks to be honest ,,,so il stick with 94 then, why do you lot call mr2s tubbies

[CosmosblueMR2]

im in northern ireland and believe me the mot arent friendly, d##ks to be honest ,,,so il stick with 94 then, why do you lot call mr2s tubbies

Just slang for Turbo's... more friendly...

MR2 Turbo = Tubby

[Mikejc]

If you was to ask Lauren she would say it's because they are, "fat" by this I mean, "heavy" Oh bu88er it, it's become impossible to use either of these words without sounding like a rude boy!

Mikejc

[BARON]

lol il be careful with my words then,, so il be with the times here then, cant wait til get my rev 3 tubby then, i know my stuff

[Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm]

make sure it's not a rev2 with rev 3 spoilers and lights

mine's a 1993 rev2

[BARON]

eh, they made rev 2s in 93 as well, til what month, are there any other tell tales

[Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm]

yes 93 was the change over but i forget which month they switched.

you can tell for sure by writing on the engine i think? the engines look different.

[BARON]

ive never even seen a rev 3 in the flesh yet so u could sell me a rev1 and i wud know no different lol. some research required

[psmiff]

It was November I think. Have a look at this engine bay.

http://mr2.noegruts.com/engine/engine.htm

This is a rev 2 it has an Air Flow meter on the top of the air intake. Top left hand corner. Rev 3s dont have these.

[BARON]

sweet, an engine bay to study how to take apart before i even get one.
thanks for the great info guys