What makes the MR2 ? - trying to convince a 911 driver

[GrahamB]

Just to add. I've also raced a fair few Porches since having the MR2. And I can't think of any other car that gives me so much pleasure to beat. The look on the faces of their owners is priceless, like they could cry! I mean just how gutted would you feel to have spent 50k plus only to be beaten by a 13 yr old Jap mobile

Mikejc

That's cause they're all driven by smug gits who think their car is "fast"

Oh and the 300+ 200sx "toyota" is mine

He's full of it but won't put his money where his mouth is

And I too have "killed" many a Porsche

Don't worry about it Frank, he'll only sell it before we get a chance to put him right

[Mikejc]

Too much power lol....is their such a thing!?

He's going to buy a Skyline GT-R 33. He should be able to launch that better with the 4 wheel drive

Mikejc

[Matt]

I would rather push my 2 than drive a Porsche!

[Aidy]

Why does the 911 win hands down?

Cos it is the better car in every respect.

[^Trickster^]

Havent had time to read the full thread, the 911 are a gorgeous car, I raced a guy in his 2 week old carrera S the other day, and he wasnt happy when he couldnt pull away from me, they are powerful cars and very well built, but they are not magical cars just because they have porsche stamped on them, at the end of the day its each to there own, if i could afford it i wouldnt say no to a carrera GT and anyone here who says they wont has to be lying lol

Graeme

[senie]

Dont get me wrong, i love my 2's past and near future, but please dont compare it to a prosche 911. one is a luxury sports coupe/convertible. The other is a porsche.

Only joking..the porker beats the mr2 hands down. OK, the tubby might beat a c2 or c4 in a drag but hey, who has a better hifi, more comfortable ride, more status a more solid car, oh and lest we forget a 911 turbo, 911 gt2, gt3, etc

Best thing to do i think, is just get your old boy out on the table and say, yes my **** is bigger than yours.

[CosmosblueMR2]

one is a luxury sports coupe/convertible. The other is a porsche.

this made me chuckle =D>

[CJ B]

I own both an MR2 turbo and a 1984 Porsche 911 3.2 Carerra.
Where the MR2 is a nice easy daily driver the 911 demands a lot more effort - heavy clutch. no power steering and a biatch of a gearbox. Despite this it is a great car to drive and I feel much more confident in the front end of the 911 over the MR2.
I would never try to outdrag any car in my 911 - each gear change has to be deliberate and perfect, you dont have to double de-clutch all the time but it certainly helps. The engine on the other hand will pull strongly from very low down and actually makes the car feel slower than it is (no slam in the back - once you are moving you're moving)
On the other side of the coin the first time I got caught in a serious traffic jam in the 911 I couldnt feel my left calf for the best part of a week.
The MR2 on the other hand is a very subtle tame beast that can bite increadibly hard at will - one minute its docile and happy sat in traffic the next pulling like a demented steamtrain.
My 911 sits in the garage while the MR2 is my main car, each one has its place in the world but if I had to place a bet on my best track time I would choose the 911, when I drive it I feel like I'm totally in control of the car (I've had it sideways on many a happy bend) I know where the car is and where its going next, somehow I've never felt the same about the MR2.
If I had to keep only one of these cars I would definitely keep the MR2.

Chris.

[TUR80]

If this so called Mr Porker (I take it hes not a close friend) makes comments about your MR2 and your mates 200sx is obvious he feels treatened. My mate had a Carrera 4 996 Convertible - it was nice but a tad boring and to be fair over priced for what they are.

I bought a Noble M12 GTO 3R as my treat and use the MR2 Turbo as my everyday car which is no Corsa!

I had an accounter recently with a 2002 996 Carrera 2 on a trip back from one of the MR2 meets and I can honestly say he had no more acceleration on the straights than me - he did have better brakes and handling but seemed annoyed that I kept up! Taking into account this was before I had my Tubby tuned on a rolling road - love to meet him again now.

[sadako]

The real question is 911 versus a Mk1 SC, with a T top

[gasman]

How come a few months ago everyone was slating the chav who wrote in vs about beating a 911 gt3 in his na, and yet now everyone seems to have complete blinkers on about their own cars versus a 911.

Most 964 and later 911s have the handling that puts an mk2 mr2 to shame, face it, although modified tubbys probably have the power to out accelerate a NA 911 at a push, I know which one I'd rather have in the corners and for fun of driving, plus the torque curve is another league entirely. They may look like poseurs cars, but its well engineered and popular with serious drivers as well as a status symbol. This is for good reason, its a cracking car.

We can take love of our cars too far, I enjoy my MR2, there's not much else out there for the price/performance/looks etc, however Im of the view that a car needs more than outright speed to be good, and having been spat off the road twice by mr2s, I could say Ive come close to their limit - and it's certainly nowhere near that of a porsche 911!

[CosmosblueMR2]

How come a few months ago everyone was slating the chav who wrote in vs about beating a 911 gt3 in his na, and yet now everyone seems to have complete blinkers on about their own cars versus a 911.
Ive come close to their limit - and it's certainly nowhere near that of a porsche 911!

I'm not trying to "compare" - my original post was requesting a few little pointers as to why the MR2 was a good little car and not the complete and utter "turd" that my 911 friend insists on calling it

I appreciate they are two very different cars - they God well damn should be considering the price difference - I was merely asking people's opinions on what "makes" the MR2 - not what makes the MR2 "better" than a 911.

rant over wish I'd never posted this thread now !

[Lauren]

The real question is 911 versus a Mk1 SC, with a T top

Think a 911 will generally anhiliate a MK1 SC. I've been on track with 911s and if they are well driven i can't get anywhere near them, particularly so if they happen to be a GT3.

[Mikejc]

although modified tubbys probably have the power to out accelerate a NA 911 at a push,

Just one point that I can be bothered to put you straight on....

A modified tubby running anything over 300bhp will smash the N/A Porkeys. They would even get the better of most of the turbos

Your point on handling I must agree with But if you were to buy the MR2 over the Pork, you wouldn't even come close to spending what you had saved improving the MR2 to a point where it would more than hold it's own!

Mikejc

[CosmosblueMR2]

Your point on handling I must agree with But if you were to buy the MR2 over the Pork, you wouldn't even come close to spending what you had saved improving the MR2 to a point where it would more than hold it's own!
Mikejc

You must be getting damn close yourself Mike
I'm just awaiting the outcome of your C/C shananagins <sp??> so that next year I know what to do

[Mikejc]

That's what i'm here for old boy. I do all the development and money spending, then the rest can come along and get it right first time

Mikejc

[CosmosblueMR2]

That's what i'm here for old boy. I do all the development and money spending, then the rest can come along and get it right first time

Mikejc

you know it bro ! =D>


Ah but you have it all sooner.. and will always have that headstart and will be onto something bigger and better by the time those have decided how to go about things..

You will always have the "respect" - olthers who follow wont have that.. but they might have a few more quid in their wallets - surely enough to buy you a drink or two for all the good work you are doing ! =D>

[Mikejc]

I have seen the future for myself. I'll be living in my car which no longer runs, parked outside the entrance to Santa Pod. I'll be drunk, of course, and telling all that pass about the days when I was ahead of the game, (some at least) and how if it were not for me......if it were not for me, you'de...you....... at this point i'll fall over unconcious!

Oh well, at least i've lived to beat Mark Edwards up the 1/4.......6 times in a row

Mikejc

[Club Tropicana]

With regards to your original point about what makes the 2 - I think the Mk2 MR2 is probably the greatest ever bargain the used car market has ever seen, especially any of the turbo's. You get quality looks (a matter of opinion, but most agree its a good-looking car), supercarish speed for the turbos ('swiftness' for the N/A's ) and the obligatory Toyota *cough* reliabilty. The overall build quality is extremely impressive too, as every owner will know.

I've been in many a 911 - the last one I went in was an '84 Carrera Targa. MR2's are well made, but those things are build like bank vaults - typical old-skool German over-engineering (10 bolts where 2 would of sufficed etc). I've heard the tail-happy rumours, but this thing was totally unfazed by any bend/corner/whatever. Fantastic cars, apart from the G40/50 (not sure) gearbox - that was shocking. A pick a gear, any gear sort of affair - hardly appropriate for a supercar. But, er Gimme Gimme Gimme