Insurance Groups Of MR2's

[Hagger]

ive done a quick search on this, but couldnt really find anything.
I'm thinking of selling my saxo vts and getting an mr2, but it just depends on the insurance , has anyone got a list of what engines you can get and what group they are?


cheers!

[Alex_Dunn]

n/a are 16 and turbo are 18 i think be careful of the rearwheel drive if u get turbo!! good luck in your search

[steve b]

On converting my car to turbo i was told by the insurer that it was going from group 16 as UK GTi-16 3SGE to group 20 3SGTE, my premium went from £530 fully comp to £1349 overnight.

[Hagger]

sounds good, my VTS is group 14 , so it shouldnt cost much more to insure a group 18 car.
why did you say be careful about RWD if i get the turbo version?

[Hagger]

also what bhp are the turbo versions and 0-60 time?

[steve b]

also what bhp are the turbo versions and 0-60 time?

1989 -1992 220bhp 5.7 0-60
1993 on 245bhp 5.2 0-60

reason he said watch the rear is LOTS of inexperienced people write them off in the first few weeks, just do a search for "crashed" on here, www.toyotaownersclub.co.uk or www.mr2oc.co.uk


http://www.imoc.co.uk/forums/viewtopic. ... d&start=45

http://www.mr2oc.co.uk/index.php?name=F ... ht=crashed

http://www.mr2oc.co.uk/index.php?name=F ... ht=crashed


http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/inde ... hl=crashed


http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/inde ... hl=crashed


theres a few for you

[Hagger]

im guessing the non turbo version is quite slow then? i had a bit of a race with one before easily pulled away from him...

[DannyW]

He wasn't trying then matey, ive had both a VTS and a non-turbo MR2 and the MR2 is quicker although not by that much.

Turbo on the other hand can be a complete animal.

[Hagger]

must of not been an mr2 , it was silver had a bodykit on it what made it look like a big fish and "GTO" written between the back 2 lights , it wasnt a gto tho, and he definitely was trying , followed me for a couple of miles, was off the lights

[CosmosblueMR2]

im guessing the non turbo version is quite slow then? i had a bit of a race with one before easily pulled away from him...

PULLED being the operative word. Front wheel drive.
If you get an MR2 - you will be PUSHED along. Rear wheel drive.

they require completely different driving ability/techniques......
in a FWD overcook it in or out of a corner and all you will get is oversteer and slide straight on at worst.
do the same in a RWD (ie MR2) - and you will swap ends quicker than it takes to say it.

Many insurance company's actually ASK you if you have experience of RWD cars when you ask them for a proper quote when your previous car was a FWD car.

As people have been saying - just take it easy and get used to it - don;t think you can simply "outgun" another on the road with an MR2 - you have to take into driving conditions a lot more than with a FWD.

Not wishing to sound like a school teacher - just wanna make sure you keep the shiney side up !

cheers !

[steve b]

on the normally aspirated front you may have come across the budget model that your VTS would be quicker than.

1989 to 1991 3sfe engine coupe 112bhp don't know 0-60 about 9 seconds?

1989 to 1992 s3ge engine 158bhp 7.2 sec

1993 to 1995 3sge 173 bhp 7.7 sec

1995 on 168 bhp 7.7 sec

[Hagger]

cheers for all the advice and info.
the only rwd car ive driven b4 is a pink smart car lol

[CosmosblueMR2]

must of not been an mr2 , it was silver had a bodykit on it what made it look like a big fish and "GTO" written between the back 2 lights , it wasnt a gto tho, and he definitely was trying , followed me for a couple of miles, was off the lights

If it was a "Mitsubishi GTO" - he was NOT trying - beleive me.

for instance would a car with these stats not be able to keep up with you if he "had" ?

The GTO family includes the based model "SR" with a double-overhead-camshaft 3.0-liter V6 engine and a choice of 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic transmission, and "Twin Turbo" & "Twin Turbo MR" with a twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter V6 DOHC engine and 6-speed manual gearbox only.

[senie]

if it was GTO non turbo, the saxo would have had no probs until higher speeds i would have thought. TT would be another story altogether.

Bear in mind a lot of performance car drivers dont speed off from lights tho as we like to keep our clutches in one peice

[SwissHeavy]

I can testify to the crash, and mine was N/A I just went around a bend in the wet and span out, rear ended the car.... see my other post....!

Oh yeah and before this I drove a smart too! Long standing member of thesmartclub too! Over 1000 posts on the forum over 3 yrs, still have it too...

[JAP BOY]

Dont think it matters if you get a turbo or a N/A ! ive been in both cars and all they need is the slightest provokation in bends especially in the wet in the dry the tubby willl or stilll cud break away depends how far u decide to push both tubby & N/A they still will break away!

[branny crashed turbo]

gotta disagree with that.
had a year in my rev 3 N/A, not once did i lose the rear.

i think thats the main reason i only lasted three weeks in my turbo.... too much confidence

also, on the insurance group side... the only car you can really get a group for is the UK cars, that'll be 16 (i thought 17?).

on imports a lot of places just put them in the group 20 with all the other jap turbos (supra, scooby, lancer etc....)
this even includes the G-Ltd, which at many places costs as much to insure as a turbo.

[Hagger]

anyone on here young-ish and insured on one?
i got a quote for an rx7 for £2.4k , so im guessing the MR2 isn't going to be that cheaper then....

[Club Tropicana]

im guessing the non turbo version is quite slow then? i had a bit of a race with one before easily pulled away from him...

PULLED being the operative word. Front wheel drive.
If you get an MR2 - you will be PUSHED along. Rear wheel drive.

they require completely different driving ability/techniques......
in a FWD overcook it in or out of a corner and all you will get is oversteer and slide straight on at worst.
do the same in a RWD (ie MR2) - and you will swap ends quicker than it takes to say it.

Correct me if i'm wrong - but is'nt it FWD drive cars that are prone to UNDERsteering, i.e. go into a bend to hard and you carry on, into the ditch (having not been able to steer enough 'under') and RWD cars are prone to oversteer, i.e. go into a bend to hard and you 'stee' to much, a consequence of this is that you spin round and face the way you were coming from?

[CosmosblueMR2]

im guessing the non turbo version is quite slow then? i had a bit of a race with one before easily pulled away from him...

PULLED being the operative word. Front wheel drive.
If you get an MR2 - you will be PUSHED along. Rear wheel drive.

they require completely different driving ability/techniques......
in a FWD overcook it in or out of a corner and all you will get is oversteer and slide straight on at worst.
do the same in a RWD (ie MR2) - and you will swap ends quicker than it takes to say it.

Correct me if i'm wrong - but is'nt it FWD drive cars that are prone to UNDERsteering, i.e. go into a bend to hard and you carry on, into the ditch (having not been able to steer enough 'under') and RWD cars are prone to oversteer, i.e. go into a bend to hard and you 'stee' to much, a consequence of this is that you spin round and face the way you were coming from?

Yep - I used the wrong word sorry - I meant "understeer"
as per "and slide straight on at worst."