An IMOC Car? is it feasble?

[paul_h]

just thinking out loud really and wondering how feasable it would be to create an imoc car? I havent looked into the logistics of this but i'm sure that could be something to work out later.

I know there are stacks of members on here now some post regular some dont how about a donation scheme to build an imoc drag or track car. if everyone put in a some money due to the amount of members i think you could get together enough money to build something special.

i'm sure the affiliates would help out in return you could have affiliates stickers on it size dependant on how much they helped. we have body kits/parts suppliers/engine builders etc easilly enough expertise through the members to build something special.

I think the only problem with this would be ownership if you put money in you wouldn't want it to belong to one person so how about bringing it out purely for track/drag days so its not anyones daily driver. For everyone wanting to attend a certain event you could offer a draw of who gets to drive it for the day / maybe 1/2 day each etc.

there are lots of options available you could do it in stages so people can track its progress, if you need a part ask the board someone might have it lying around IMOC is a big resource and think it would be possible to do

like i said i havent looked into how it would all work just something to get the ball rolling maybe and see people reactions

please discuss


paul

p.s if any of the committe think this has any life in it could you move this to the general section where someone might see it.

[Quigonjay]

while it sounds like a good idea in theory i think there would be a few issues

for instance, we have a number of high powred cars on the forums now with a few more in the pipeline - i think it would be a very long drawn out process to go through collecting money from everyone, then get an appropriate car, then modify it etc and considering the amount of money some people have spent and the power some cars are putting out it would be a very long time before the IMOC car was anywhere near the performance of some of our members car.

another thing is although there may be 6000+ members i bet less than half than that are active so say for example £5 x 3000 is only £15,000 and i dont think that would be eough to make the car competitive at totb for example. Therefore, it would take donations of £10 or more from ALL members to build a competitive IMOC car - i think £10 might be an issue for some members, especially considering some members cars have had far more money put into there own cars - why would they help to build a car that was going to be quicker than theres?

[tonigmr2]

I would suggest it could easily decend into trouble - people getting the grump at never getting a drive, probably accusations of certain others getting too many, storage issues, rights to drive it to and from and event, insurance for multiple drivers, who pays for MOT repairs etc. etc. The only way I could see anything like this working is if an affiliate had a car they wanted to 'raffle' as an IMOC car and people could buy tickets, but it remained in their care/keep and their responsibility to upkeep for club availability. Oh and of course they couldn't sell it, not without giving a cut to the club or similar anyway.

T

[Jaspa]

One of the MX5 Owners clubs sub divisions (SERoadsters I think) have just bought a mk1 MX5 as a restoration and track project and I am looking into doing something similar with a small group of car enthusiasts in the Guildford area.

In principal, A smaller group would be better because you will have disagreements and you need to decide exactly what it is you are after before you start looking for the vehicle.

I think a MK1 striped out trackcar would be a better idea than a Drag monster primarily because it will be relatively inexpensive to prep.

Just my thought.

Stuart

[paul_h]

I know there would be a lot of issues to address that why I posted to see if it was I viable option and for people to discuss 

As for the 15k option I think you would be surprised how far that would stretch if members / affiliates are involved. Remember you would be looking at very minimal if any labour charges and with parts coming from America at current exchange rates would be a big saving. Just for example you can get a set of rods and pistons in the country for less than £350 buying off ebay so god know what our affiliates can get them for 

Anyway at least the discussion has started


paul

i posted over in the general section see what people there think as well

[Jaspa]

TBH the main problem is the location of the Car.

Personally if I was donating towards a car, I would want to be able to do the work on it myself.

I personally wouldn't give you £5 to develop a car when you are 300 miles away. I'm getting together with a group are all within 10 miles of a central location that we can use to store the vehicle with hydraulic ramps, electrics and most importantly running water and a kettle, we're working on a small budget because if it goes belly up later on, there isn't the financial aspect to stress about too much.

Trying getting a small group of locals together would be a better suggestion in my opinion.

Stuart

[3S Service Centre]

Ok well lets see who would do what.

I would offer

The chassis
Offer free dry storage.
Complete fitting/mechanical/electrical service

and time to organise.

[anna]

Ok well lets see who would do what.

I would offer

The chassis
Offer free dry storage.
Complete fitting/mechanical/electrical service

and time to organise.

Well volunteered that man

Can you put a proposal together outlining how you would expect the project to run that encompasses the above points, and any more you can think of?
A.

[3S Service Centre]

sure thing anna, i will collect my thoughts on it over a few hours and pop it up here soon.
James

[paul_h]

sure thing anna, i will collect my thoughts on it over a few hours and pop it up here soon.
James

=D>

well done james, my brains are working on this as well

watch this space

paul

[Tiamat]

Personally if I was donating towards a car, I would want to be able to do the work on it myself.

Stuart working on a car? PMSL. That made me cry I laughed so hard (JOKING - I know you expanding your knowledge Stuart)

With regard to the car, its all well and good but what if I donate my money and some monkey gets the first drive and completely totals the car. I think that as Stuart has said, a smaller group would be better, if anyone is going to donate chassis and things like that then I think they should retain a modicum of control over the matter. Plus how do we decide who gets advertising where? Who gets priority on each piece of bodywork. I think its a massive can of worms.

[3S Service Centre]

can of worms yes! impossible no, getting my grey matter round most of these issues, will be back proposed action plan.

James

[matt_mr2t]

Dont personally think it'll work. Be a nice idea and good publicity for the club but just wouldnt work.

For one I dont think enough members would contribute any where near enough money. Then again, if they did there would be faaaarrr to many people involved to actively have a part in the car and it's life so what would be the point?

The only reason would be "for the good of the club" it would be more like giving money to charity than having a part in something. There's too much involved in "sharing the finished project"

As with above, you cant just pass it around like a russian doll, it would have to have the insurance sorted every day. Some one would have to be responsible for maintenance. Who would it be registered to. If it ever got sold where would the money go?

I think a better thing would be as above suggested, sell tickets for a comp. James could build up a car with the proceeds then give the car to a winner?