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. I want a refund i dont even want these frames now ive seen the quality./ refund then we should all get together and goto small claims court. First off a big thanks to aaron for getting the pictures up for me and secondly apolagies for the picture quality - I am not so good with a camera - but I still think the pictures speak for themselves ! ( if you print them they are a lot clearer)- I have backed up the letter with photographs. I have asked that they arrange a courier to pick these subframes up and then asked them to inspect them I have also asked them to replace them with some frames that fit and arent RUBBISH ! I have sent the letter recorded delivery - under trading law we do have to give Corbeau the chance to rectify this situation - should they choose not to then I am all for going in with Cjones suggestion of going to the small claims court.- But I would respectfully suggest to any one who has these frames - DO NOT attempt to modify them to fit as I have had a proffesional fabricator look at them and his opinion is that the welding is way below standard and could possibly fail in the event of a crash (seat belt bracket weld) - Its your life and I am not about to tell you what to do with it so if after waiting all this time for the frames to finally arrive you want to go ahead and try to fit them its your choice but remember there is a possability that they will fail in the event of an accident !- I just want a seat subframe that fits well, is safe, isnt rusted and fits my seats.- I managed to speak to Corbeau today and they are in reciept of my letter (see previous post) - I need any one who has these frames to call Corbeau - 01424854499 and explain that you are part of the imoc group buy for these subframes and you would like them to arrange a courier to pick the frames up and for them to inspect them - I have told them there are problems with at least 2 other sets than mine - Be pleasent with them but be firm - They are picking mine up on Friday. The concerns I outlined to them were build quality, and safety I also raised the issue of there franchised dealer who once told dont contact Corbeau direct and is now telling us the exact oppasite. I have also stated that I want a set of properly manafactured subframes sent to me if they agree they are faulty - Its up to you if you want to go down that route or ask for a full refund.- if we push hard enough we may get this issue resolved with out it dragging on and on.- Thanks. 
./ is safe enough etc.../ are you ahppy with it etc.. mine are being collected tomorrow, they said the mk1 thing to me aswell but i think that rubbish, problem is...... even if they are mk1 frames they should not snap off like that!!- regarding mk 1 frames - didnt we have a request for mk 1 frames at the start of the group buy - if memory serves me correctly they were I think a lot differnt to mk 2;s or not listed or something like that. Glad you all made a little head way though!- Yet another cal to Corbeau ! who blamed the courier firm- so if they came to me instead of you today I am sorry - Corbeau confirmed with me that they had Friday down as the pick up day for mine so I guess some one may have got unlucky. Let me know how you got on. will keep you informed- I hope every one has had there subframes picked up by corbeau - I have not heard anything from them yet so I suggest we start telephoning tommorow |(i called today and left a messege) once again be polite but firm and ask what the situation is - I dont think any one wants this dragging on any longer than it should but cjones raised an interesting point in one post regarding 14 days for replacement/refund. so lets give this project another push in the right direction and try and get it solved asap to every ones satifaction. any probs. please post or p.m. thanks. They have had a delay with the courier and only arrived today.. he opened then whilst on the phone and acknowledged that the welding was rubbish and the frames were terrible fit. The frames are not being made by corbeau themselves but by 3rd party company at the moment due to a fire they have suffered from and are trying to get back on their feet. I to have spoken to Jim Rosewell at Corbeau and in the interest of fairness I told him that I would type a a piece regarding his side of things. Firstly he has stated the frames were made by a "third party " company due to the pressure of work load at Corbeau at the moment - I was told this was due to the factory move. Also he has also stated that the quality of the subframes is poor - well below the standard expected by corbeau and they should not have left the factory. He is and I quote "going to talk to his man in the morning" regarding this issue as the subframes seem to have bypassed quality control with no one checking them when they came into Corbeau. Jim Rosewell also asked me to point out that the patterns for the subframes were actually taken from an mr2 which he at one time owned the vehicle was a "2001 model" and he is at a loss as to why the frames do not fit. As far as what we can expect in the form of replacement subframes or refunds he is unable to state until he has reviwed things "with his man" in the morning.- hopefully this is going the right way with an admission of poor quality and should not have left the factory etc. I guess we will have to wait until tommorow but I am going to state that I still have some concerns over this issue given the promises and statments made by Corbeau in the past (which I have e mails to prove) But like I say hopefully this will be resolved soon.- I know its more and more hassle but I think we still need to keep pushing a little.. they hd a fire in original factory some time ago so have been using a rented one.. just moved back into theirown factory again.
he did say that he hasnt got an mr2 anymore so i think he may need propper measurments again, cant remember their address but if needed then im happy to go down and let them measure my car if they cover fuel 
(frames still in their original boxes from corbeau) they we're bought early last year (2005) and when I test fitted the frames they we're exactly like the ones that people have been recieving through this group buy, !!! thanks for this bit of Information - I will pass it on to Corbeau - seems this isnt quite such a "third party" manafacture issue if its been going on that long.slipping clutch wrote:mr2 which he at one time owned the vehicle was a
- I know there are quite a few 1999 Mk2's, and certainly the odd late-registered 2000.. but 2001 is well into Mk3 territory 
- I thought that as well but figured he may have a late registered one. To be honest i have done as I said I would and posted his reply as it was stated to me. Thanks again for the point though - something else to point out to Corbeau.