'05 wrx sti

[rev3gt]

Aaaaanyway, 9.8x OMFG how fast is that. Basically 0-148mph in 10 seconds. That's Carrera GT territory isn't it?

Difference being the Carrera GT is actually drivable in town/general!? Well I'm presuming of course as I've never actually driven either

I think andy forrester drives to events but not sure.

Of course the main difference being the price tag

[Spittinflames]

As i former evo owner i would say off the line the 4wd Evo or scooby would killl the mr2.

As said in a previous post you can just sit there at full throttle dump the clutch and off you go... try that in an mr2

Of course it all depends what you've had done to your car.

My evoRS was 270ish in standard form.... i never had it dyno'd and it had a few little mods but i still classed it as stock because i have no proof what extra bhp it was running but it was booked at 4.7 0-60 Stock.

The only bad point was being an Rs (lightweight version) was:-

RS has closer gearing for better acceleration. But top speed is between 125mph and 150mph depending on model.

So depending on what you race you will get blown away at the start but 100+ and you may start catching up.... i know mine topped out at around 130



They rip your neck off though.

EDIT*
Just noticed theres six pages to this topic.... My reply is to the first page... only read that one

[Rikki]

As i former evo owner i would say off the line the 4wd Evo or scooby would killl the mr2.

You only get to play that game a few times with a standard clutch though

[The Morris]

the girlfriends boss has an 05 sti 280bhp as sandard, but he has up graded it to 310bhp and i pi$$ed all over it today, he was gutted.

I was quicker bottem end , middle end and top end

[Spittinflames]

As i former evo owner i would say off the line the 4wd Evo or scooby would killl the mr2.

You only get to play that game a few times with a standard clutch though

But thats the same in any car if your going to launch hard.... not just in an evo/scooby.

[[SiG]]

I gotta agree with Morris here, my personal experience of a 350bhp Scooby is not that great (but that was the owners estimate)

I'm only running 280@fly (230atw) and we were pretty evenly matched on the traffic lights blasting and upto 90ish leptons

He was carrying 2 passengers but I also had the shittest rear tyres ever on that day, partly worn Nankangs. I had to keep lifting off as the back-end was being a tad 'slippy' on the 0-60 stuff but it still wasn't a whitewash for me. Kept up pretty well, was chuffed - He did edge me though but only just, weight didnt help him I should imagine (but I weight about 18.5st anyhow and they were all norm's he was carrying )

I can't WAIT to be running 300atw

Si

PS - I gotta say though I'd have a Scooby for the sound alone, absolutely awesome with a Nur

PPS - Spittinflames, it was that Scooby that turned up to the Stoke meet we had in Feb & I had a play with if u remember

[Spittinflames]

Mr2 vs scooby drag day is required me thinks...... settle this once and for all

Yeah i remember that scooby from stoke.... Nice motor and a quick little beasty. I never actually saw you havin a blast with him though

Come to the next meet SIG and will try get the scooby there..... ill get me camcorder out and we can get some true footage

[[SiG]]

Mr2 vs scooby drag day is required me thinks...... settle this once and for all

Remember that Scooby that turned up at the Stoke meet in Feb - Were u there? Well that was it

Also what a GREAT idea, i'll be up for that in a few week

[Spittinflames]

Just edited my reply SIG Get your name down

[[SiG]]

Yeah i remember that scooby from stoke.... Nice motor and a quick little beasty. I never actually saw you havin a blast with him though

Yeah we went the 'long' way round & had a blast along the A500 - Was well

Also is a good job I plumped for a nice RPS 6-puk clutch to go with the engine rebuild

PS - Spittin I also have a ct20b, power all the way baby

[Rikki]

As i former evo owner i would say off the line the 4wd Evo or scooby would killl the mr2.

You only get to play that game a few times with a standard clutch though

But thats the same in any ALL WHEEL DRIVE car if your going to launch hard.... not just in an evo/scooby.

There, edited it for you mate.

[Spittinflames]

yeah thanks

[Aidy]

And redone...come on...if you had kids you'd buy a lotus carlton or a million other cars first? I'd take an evo over a sccob any day, and only then if it was a 5.

LOL classic thread chaps

nightspirit you know nothing of what you're talking about, fact.

To the rest of you some basic facts. Scoobys are not fast in a straight line due to power or 4WD but due to gearing. Scoobys are rally cars, not sports cars. They are not designed to go over 120 but to get there as fast as possible. So stock for stock an equal powered scooby will beat an MR2 up to 100 mph, after that rubbish aerodynamics, bigger tranny losses and short gearing will start to come into play.

As for modded vs modded...throw all the power you want at a scooby and it can use it. Throw 400 BHP or 900 BHP at an MR2 and its irrelevant as it can't really use it.

On a track don't even go there, the scooby every time. Short gears, modern suspension, AWD, big brakes, it wins in every category. Scoobys are world-renown for their ability and performance. To suggest that an MR2 can compete is just a little bit silly. At the end of the day, try to have some perspective.

[Edited to tidy up]

[Scotster]

And redone...come on...if you had kids you'd buy a lotus carlton or a million other cars first? I'd take an evo over a sccob any day, and only then if it was a 5.

LOL classic thread chaps

nightspirit you know nothing of what you're talking about, fact.

To the rest of you some basic facts. Scoobys are not fast in a straight line due to power or 4WD but due to gearing. Scoobys are rally cars, not sports cars. They are not designed to go over 120 but to get there as fast as possible. So stock for stock an equal powered scooby will beat an MR2 up to 100 mph, after that rubbish aerodynamics, bigger tranny losses and short gearing will start to come into play.

As for modded vs modded...throw all the power you want at a scooby and it can use it. Through 400 BHP or 900 BHP and its irrelevant as it can't really use it.

On a track don't even go there, the scooby every time. Short gears, modern suspension, AWD, big brakes, it wins in every category. Scoobys are world-renown for their ability and performance. To suggest that an MR2 can compete is just a little bit silly. At the end of the day, try to have some perspective.

Mate, i have less power than a standard wrx sti and i have no trouble with them from around 70+. Its up till then i aint close. On the motorways i just pull away from those speeds and keep on pulling coz as you say, all these "rally" cars are made for speeds up to 120, same with my evo. As i said it was gutless after 120.

Scott =op

[rev3gt]

And redone...come on...if you had kids you'd buy a lotus carlton or a million other cars first? I'd take an evo over a sccob any day, and only then if it was a 5.

LOL classic thread chaps

nightspirit you know nothing of what you're talking about, fact.

To the rest of you some basic facts. Scoobys are not fast in a straight line due to power or 4WD but due to gearing. Scoobys are rally cars, not sports cars. They are not designed to go over 120 but to get there as fast as possible. So stock for stock an equal powered scooby will beat an MR2 up to 100 mph, after that rubbish aerodynamics, bigger tranny losses and short gearing will start to come into play.

As for modded vs modded...throw all the power you want at a scooby and it can use it. Through 400 BHP or 900 BHP and its irrelevant as it can't really use it.

On a track don't even go there, the scooby every time. Short gears, modern suspension, AWD, big brakes, it wins in every category. Scoobys are world-renown for their ability and performance. To suggest that an MR2 can compete is just a little bit silly. At the end of the day, try to have some perspective.

Well put =D>

[Spittinflames]

And redone...come on...if you had kids you'd buy a lotus carlton or a million other cars first? I'd take an evo over a sccob any day, and only then if it was a 5.

LOL classic thread chaps

nightspirit you know nothing of what you're talking about, fact.

To the rest of you some basic facts. Scoobys are not fast in a straight line due to power or 4WD but due to gearing. Scoobys are rally cars, not sports cars. They are not designed to go over 120 but to get there as fast as possible. So stock for stock an equal powered scooby will beat an MR2 up to 100 mph, after that rubbish aerodynamics, bigger tranny losses and short gearing will start to come into play.

As for modded vs modded...throw all the power you want at a scooby and it can use it. Through 400 BHP or 900 BHP and its irrelevant as it can't really use it.

On a track don't even go there, the scooby every time. Short gears, modern suspension, AWD, big brakes, it wins in every category. Scoobys are world-renown for their ability and performance. To suggest that an MR2 can compete is just a little bit silly. At the end of the day, try to have some perspective.

To take a quote from what i put earlier in the thread:

My evoRS was 270ish in standard form.... i never had it dyno'd and it had a few little mods but i still classed it as stock because i have no proof what extra bhp it was running but it was booked at 4.7 0-60 Stock.

The only bad point was being an Rs (lightweight version) was:-

RS has closer gearing for better acceleration. But top speed is between 125mph and 150mph depending on model.

So depending on what you race you will get blown away at the start but 100+ and you may start catching up.... i know mine topped out at around 130

Very well put across m8..... as i say mine topped out at around 130

[luthor1]

Not sure where all this short gearing thing came from, it's only a *few* Jap spec cars with a short box. All the 6-speed modern models have a geared top speed over 170. Having driven an '99 STi Type-R I know that is geared for at least 150. I can't think of a single Scooby ever with a rev-limiter-in-top speed of under 150.

The UK Classic gearing is extremely long, gearing being 40, 70, 100, 140, 175mph.

The reason they are fast is because the tranny losses are NOWHERE near as much as any of you guys think, infact given the CD of 0.310 for the MR2 and 0.360 of the Scooby, I would wager that the tranny losses actualy make negligible difference and the top speed differential is ALL down to wind resistence.

[Spittinflames]

Not sure where all this short gearing thing came from, it's only a *few* Jap spec cars with a short box. All the 6-speed modern models have a geared top speed over 170. Having driven an '99 STi Type-R I know that is geared for at least 150. I can't think of a single Scooby ever with a rev-limiter-in-top speed of under 150.

The UK Classic gearing is extremely long, gearing being 40, 70, 100, 140, 175mph.

The reason they are fast is because the tranny losses are NOWHERE near as much as any of you guys think, infact given the CD of 0.310 for the MR2 and 0.360 of the Scooby, I would wager that the tranny losses actualy make negligible difference and the top speed differential is ALL down to wind resistence.

Mine had shorter gearing..... and trust me it wouldnt go over 130 and no it wasnt restricted either........ God dam it gets me fustrated people coming on here spouting off different thing's... i know what my car had because it was my car
The only way to settle the original argument is for someone to set up an mr2 vs scooby vs evo day.

[luthor1]

Sorry mate, but I simply don't believe you when you say your car was only geared for 130mph on the rev limiter in top gear, since I assume you are reading this off your Speedo, it actually equates to a little under that.

The RA had shorter gearing but would still pull 150mph.

I am afraid you are mistaken mate.

[Scotster]

yes the RS has a lesser final drive.

My V wasn't an RS and mine topped out at the redline of 150 (indicated)

Scott =op