WARNING!...OS GIKEN CLUTCHES....WARNING!...SOS

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:14 pm

well what can i say what can we say

bought an os giken clutch here off imoc advert described as good going
concern to have thor/peter/nod kindly inspect it before fitting for
dave/dangerous.

well thors expert engine builder/engineer has inspected the os giken clutch
as being totally condemed to scrap due to the fact that it got so much
abuse and heat that the internals are warped to such a degree that this
clutch kit is unrepairable.

if this unit was sold as is/seen take youre chances then fair enough my
problem but as it was described as good i will be expecting a full refund.
we expect this to happen as we suspect the seller is honourable and has
been "CONNED" by the person he bought it from,saying it was all good.

well the seller to me might count his lucky stars that this unit was checked
by thor and not just put straight in a car then taken out to duplicate
this cost/excersise.

he might have been sued like this if it had occured,well i would have got it
first then passed him down the line...

cost of purchase of the damged beyond repair osgiken clutch..x amount
cost of workshop insilation duplicated to fit remove maybe? 700
cost of courier to thor 25
if not resolved lawyers costs as we would win x amount
loss of turnover me x amount

no names are mentioned as yet as expect a positive result in the way of
a refund to my paypal account as paid in good faith.

how ever if this is not resolved we will...(7days)(paid with in 14 days)

contact paypal security
lawyers
imoc

this experience has left a very very bad taste and is not right and we will
never again buy any form of used clutch ever again.

*BE WARNED YOU HAVE NOW BEEN WARNED*

Dale_V · Post by **Dale_V** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:17 pm

oh dear

buying a second hand clutch seems very dodgy anyway IMO

dude541 · Post by **dude541** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:22 pm

ditto!

i would never ever buy a second hand clutch!
nomatter what make it was!

but i do agree if it was sold as in good serviceable order then push for a refund

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:26 pm

aye...quite so

but dale if you for example said you had a good as unit why should
we not believe it...

but yes agree now from expeience with youre correct statement

buying a used clutch is dodgy as.

Daveb · Post by **Daveb** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:26 pm

Second hand clutch!

Get your brakes from the scrappy too do you?

No point coming on here and telling us all about it. What do you expect us to do?

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:40 pm

learn

Dale_V · Post by **Dale_V** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:49 pm

Harry wrote:aye...quite so

but dale if you for example said you had a good as unit why should
we not believe it...

but yes agree now from expeience with youre correct statement

buying a used clutch is dodgy as.

Yes mate, I agree, theres loads of dishonest sellers

I try and detail an item perfectly so then it doesnt lead to dissapointment, I treat people in a way id like to be treated too....

but give the person you bought it off a chance, maybe the clutch WAS ok in his mr2

live and learn eh...

craig · Post by **craig** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:50 pm

Dale_V wrote:oh dear

buying a second hand clutch seems very dodgy anyway IMO

Second that! Parts like that I would buy brand new!

Wanna buy my Brake pads harry? £100 a pair to you good sir

axisofunity · Post by **axisofunity** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:53 pm

Oh dear Harry!

Good luck getting your money back.

Oh and you know that HKS grounding kit you sold me.... Do you have fitting instructions for it?!

I was going to do it this weekend.

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:55 pm

in this case he bought it off a well known "ex member"(ex)
had we known i could have said it was going to be 100%
no good.

galvanics · Post by **galvanics** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:01 pm

Harry wrote:well what can i say what can we say

bought an os giken clutch here off imoc advert described as good going
concern to have thor/peter/nod kindly inspect it before fitting for
dave/dangerous.

well thors expert engine builder/engineer has inspected the os giken clutch
as being totally condemed to scrap due to the fact that it got so much
abuse and heat that the internals are warped to such a degree that this
clutch kit is unrepairable.

if this unit was sold as is/seen take youre chances then fair enough my
problem but as it was described as good i will be expecting a full refund.
we expect this to happen as we suspect the seller is honourable and has
been "CONNED" by the person he bought it from,saying it was all good.

well the seller to me might count his lucky stars that this unit was checked
by thor and not just put straight in a car then taken out to duplicate
this cost/excersise.

he might have been sued like this if it had occured,well i would have got it
first then passed him down the line...

cost of purchase of the damged beyond repair osgiken clutch..x amount
cost of workshop insilation duplicated to fit remove maybe? 700
cost of courier to thor 25
if not resolved lawyers costs as we would win x amount
loss of turnover me x amount

no names are mentioned as yet as expect a positive result in the way of
a refund to my paypal account as paid in good faith.

how ever if this is not resolved we will...(7days)(paid with in 14 days)

contact paypal security
lawyers
imoc

this experience has left a very very bad taste and is not right and we will
never again buy any form of used clutch ever again.

*BE WARNED YOU HAVE NOW BEEN WARNED*

Harry yeah its not very good when you buy something as good/perfect 'top quality' etc. etc. and when you get its a load of cr4p . just hope it dosnt take 2 months to get a refund and endless phone calls then threating with solicitors etc. etc.

you know what i'm talking about !!!!!! one word for you ' LOUVRE'

cheers Carl

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:21 pm

galvanics · Post by **galvanics** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:34 pm

aye ??? whats that mean

cheers carl

MR2lover · Post by **MR2lover** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:41 pm

Come on guys lets not ruin this thread with a slagging match, i know im not a Mod but there are too many arguements on imoc recently. use private message that what its for.

anna · Post by **anna** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:46 pm

Ok ok...

atm this thread stands because it makes no mention of the person selling. As such it is a user's experience.

However, IMOC would like to make a couple of things clear:
1. Private sales, through the site or otherwise, are always buyer beware.
2. Do not use IMOC as a tool to sort grievances. You may post an experience to warn others, as long as there is no reference to the other party involved. If an 'experience' thread descends into name calling etc, it will be locked and possibly moved.
3. Buyers and sellers should always sort out grievances between themselves, privately.

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:47 pm

aye means aye

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:50 pm

aye roger that.

galvanics · Post by **galvanics** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:54 pm

good luck with getting your money back

cheers carl

Harry · Post by **Harry** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:57 pm

cheers carl

pnjmcc · Post by **pnjmcc** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:20 pm

Dam Harry,

Thats a shame, I hope you get a quick/good resolution to this situation.

I must confess that I do tend to trust IMOC members more than I would trust joe public or ebay people. If I was told an item was in a certain condition then thats how I would expect it to be (within reason) and if it came from an IMOC member I wouldn't have even thought of getting it checked I would just assume that its OK.

Regards
PaulM
92 G-Ltd.

www.imoc.co.uk