What is it about the '2'

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Aidy

Re: What is it about the '2'

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Rikki wrote:It looks great, esp with the lights down. With the tubby it kicks Scooby/Evo ass all day long :D


:^o :lol: :lol:

Oh dear.... *wipes tear from eye*
Aidy

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Lauren wrote:
Aidy wrote:
Dave Goodhand wrote:Can't beat MR!


Apart from AWD :twisted: :D


AWD is for those that can't handle RWD, surely? ;)


Yeah, can't handle how sloooowwww they are :P :wink:
nikaso

Re: What is it about the '2'

Post by nikaso »

Surely its the tunnel/exhaust testing you can do in a 2? Find a tunnel, open the windows nail that throttle. Blissful! :D
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Re: What is it about the '2'

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Aidy wrote:
Rikki wrote:It looks great, esp with the lights down. With the tubby it kicks Scooby/Evo ass all day long :D


:^o :lol: :lol:

Oh dear.... *wipes tear from eye*


im sure it would be very close mate, you certaintly wouldnt leave a tubby once its boost has been increased like the evo has :roll:
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Re: What is it about the '2'

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to see why people love the MR2 all you have to do is pick up a new car magazine and flick through, except for £100,000 exotica everything looks the same. The MR2 has more in common with the £100,000 exotica than 99.9% of every other car on the market.

The usual produce followed this design i believe :-

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I was talking to the other half the other day about what i'd change the mr2 for when we have a lot more cash. All i could think of that i'd say is an upgrade, and then not in all ways retaining the rear drive and mid engined layout that i love were

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Aidy

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mr2nut123 wrote:im sure it would be very close mate, you certaintly wouldnt leave a tubby once its boost has been increased like the evo has :roll:


My EVO peaks at a whopping 1.1 bar and holds about 0.9 so it isn't that high boosting a car. As for leaving the turbo I think that would be rather easily achieved. The EVO is just way way faster everywhere (*). It accelerates quicker, brakes better, handles better...the whole lot. Some corners I'm taking a good 15-20mph faster than I used to in the '2.

(*) claims do not apply once over 100 mph :)
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Find a tunnel, open the windows nail that throttle


I love doing that! lol 8)
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Re: What is it about the '2'

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It looks good from every angle . :D Anyone disagree ?
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Dave Goodhand

Re: What is it about the '2'

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The EVO is just way way faster everywhere (*). It accelerates quicker, brakes better, handles better...the whole lot. Some corners I'm taking a good 15-20mph faster than I used to in the '2.


I think this is down to confidence in the car more than anything else. I find that once you have got comfortable and know where the limits of the 2 are, it is a very predictable car. As for having the AWD Evo etc. I think it comes down to having more predictability, so you feel comfortable pushing the car harder.

I thought that EVO's look way too big and heavy, I reckon a stripped out 2 Turbo with a few basic mods would do a decent laptime around the Top Gear track - esp. with Stig driving. Would be interesting to see how it compares to some of the other cars they've taken around there!
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Re: What is it about the '2'

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turbo, pop-up lights, 2 seats, fast as fook and looks sweet 8)
Aidy

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Dave Goodhand wrote:I think this is down to confidence in the car more than anything else. I find that once you have got comfortable and know where the limits of the 2 are, it is a very predictable car. As for having the AWD Evo etc. I think it comes down to having more predictability, so you feel comfortable pushing the car harder.


No, it's just a faster car :) I had my MR2 for about 5 years or something, had my EVO for 3. The confidence comes from better handling and better feedback. The MR2's feedback is good, just not as good as the EVO.

Dave Goodhand wrote:I thought that EVO's look way too big and heavy, I reckon a stripped out 2 Turbo with a few basic mods would do a decent laptime around the Top Gear track - esp. with Stig driving. Would be interesting to see how it compares to some of the other cars they've taken around there!


It's about 200kg heavier than the MR2 so it isn't quite Skyline territory :) However the brakes are massive so it isn't much of a problem. On the First Lotus day my old MR2 was 1 second slower around the track than the MR2 Turbo, and my EVO was 3 seconds faster than the MR2 Turbo. That was same track, same day with a pro driver in the seat.
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Re: What is it about the '2'

Post by Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm »

got my MK1 as i wanted something fun to drive and fun it damn is as it out handles a lot of cars on the B roads!

got my MKII for basically bang for buck as someone said! 0-60mph in under 6 secs and it looks great too! plus insurance for me was lower than having a scoob!

i see 2 seats as a downside though, gets annoying sometimes not having a couple of extra seats but then again i guess my mates should learn to drive the cheapskates :)

buy one!
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Re: What is it about the '2'

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Aidy wrote:
Rikki wrote:It looks great, esp with the lights down. With the tubby it kicks Scooby/Evo ass all day long :D


:^o :lol: :lol:

Oh dear.... *wipes tear from eye*


You think do ya. When I just got my 2 last year before modifying it me and one of my work mates were heading off to a photoshoot and coming out of the Shell at the motorway services we both nailed it. It was neck and neck up to about 110 then I started pulling forward.

This wasnt any old Scooby, it was a STi WRX Version 4 Type-R so yes I would say that a standard Rev3 tubby is pretty awesome for being 10 years old and holding its own. With his new car (Evo 7 GSR with decat, downpipe, exhaust and filter) I am only .2 of a second off his 1/4 mile time with my own pretty much untuned MR2 tubby.

*wipes smile from your face*

R.
Aidy

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Until you hit a bend and you're so far away you can no longer see the smile on my face :D

Soz, I forgot that MR2s are just all about straight-line speed these days :roll:
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the Mrk 2 Mr2 is a sexy car. It looks fast, it is fast, has near perfect feel and handling, the turbo can be drivin like a shopping trolly and still drive smooth and fine , and then you can let rip and in the horizion blurs and its warp speed.

Oh and when nicly pollished up on a early evening london night , take a drive up town and people love them , Well mine with my Fezza F40 wheels ;) oh the ladies love it, it looks like a fast car , does not look like a Scooby or EVO they all look like they have crashed through a Halfords shop and come out the back with all that stuck on crap, plus a scooby or EVO , crap chassies, I only ever see them in 4 wheel skidds going round tracks- rally chassies are nothing a true sports car chassie like the MR2, = we all know that ar$e out drifting looks soo much more manley than AWD understeer tyre screaching computer assited Billy no skill Driving
Hellboy

Re: What is it about the '2'

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Aidy wrote:Until you hit a bend and you're so far away you can no longer see the smile on my face :D

Soz, I forgot that MR2s are just all about straight-line speed these days :roll:


Id give ya whipping on atrack like Donninton , you would whip me on a B road blast no doubt as you chassie is ment to cope with RALLY not Track driving.
Hellboy

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Aidy

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Hellboy wrote:Id give ya whipping on atrack like Donninton , you would whip me on a B road blast no doubt as you chassie is ment to cope with RALLY not Track driving.


LOL, dream on boy, I'd whip you anywhere. Esp like most MR2 drivers you've bu88ered up your handling with daft sized wheels. Your mismatch in widths probably gives you more understeer than I have, and your antiquated 80s suspension is probably buckling under the changes to the set-up. On a UK A or B road the EVO will simply destroy an MR2, on a smooth track it will just whoop it :D

As for chassis, you can't even spell it let along understand it LOL. Why don't you come up with some more clichés that demonstrate just how sour your grapes are? ;)
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Post by Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm »

Aidy wrote:
Hellboy wrote:Id give ya whipping on atrack like Donninton , you would whip me on a B road blast no doubt as you chassie is ment to cope with RALLY not Track driving.


LOL, dream on boy, I'd whip you anywhere. Esp like most MR2 drivers you've bu88ered up your handling with daft sized wheels. Your mismatch in widths probably gives you more understeer than I have, and your antiquated 80s suspension is probably buckling under the changes to the set-up. On a UK A or B road the EVO will simply destroy an MR2, on a smooth track it will just whoop it :D

As for chassis, you can't even spell it let along understand it LOL. Why don't you come up with some more clichés that demonstrate just how sour your grapes are? ;)


aidy the only reason your evo handles at all is due to all the electronics correcting all the things the car does wrong!
on track a late spec MR2 turbo and an evo of the same year i doubt there would be much if anything in it.

MR2 wins hands down on bird pulling power mind as at the end of the day an evo and scoob are still dull family sallons with big spoilers and a turbo :)
77West

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Time honoured my cars faster than yours conversations are great and everything, but….. the question was why MR2? The answer seems to be simple its pretty, handles well and go’s. A mixture cars like evo’s cant manage; yep they are fast, yep they handle but blimey only 13 year olds are impressed by those looks! Go back 10 years and the Lancia Integrale got it right, fast 4wd rally car but didn’t feel the need for chav like adornments.

There is always someone with a better handling or quicker car. If, you’ve got nothing to aspire to where’s the fun! Not that I aspire to an evo of course; I want an early NSX! Anyone got £15k so I can import one?
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