Got my new Rev3 Turbo.... Steer clear of Daie Motors :(

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Tom Solan
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Post by Tom Solan »

Sorry to hear of your woes.

This is why I stock here in the UK 20 or so MR2 Turbos, so customers can come see the car and drive it before parting with their hard earned. There will always be some risk with buying a car from photos and a serious risk of losing the car at sea. In 2003 a ship sank with 11 of my cars on it.Where would you have stood if the ship sank?

I hope it all works out for you.

Cheers

Tom
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de_niro69

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Post by de_niro69 »

tom,
i pleed the 5th

:oops: :oops: :oops:

i have imported 2 times now and both times my cars were in great condition,

so sorry to hear that,
but if you look at Daie's website you can clearly see that they only sell to Julian @ JDI,
6 mnths to get here that is messed up, my car took 5weeks and then 1 week to get it registered.....
should have used the same company that i used mate
hope you get it soted soon
cheers

Deniro
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Re: Got my new Rev3 Turbo.... Steer clear of Daie Motors :(

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jrleech wrote:Julian has replied to my (large) list of problems, and has offered to provide me with replacement parts for most of the damaged or missing items.

He's also written a (very good) e-mail to Daie Motors explaining the situation, telling them off, listing the problems, and asking them to refund me some money...

I shall hold my breath.......


Got a reply from Japan.... their view appears to be you either spend a lot more money and buy a dealer/stock car and get a guaranteed good car, or you buy a 'cheap' car (in their words) from auction and take your chances..

Funny.... I thought that's what they went to the auction for, to inspect the car :?
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Post by V8Killer »

Jon...

sorry to hear your woes. I've never like the idea of purchasing a car without seeing it. Doesn't matter whether its Julian or Miguel at Newera, i just can't do it. Although, i did once pay Miguel a thousand pound to start looking for a Rev 3 / FD3S RX7 for me, but then eventually found my current Rev 3 Tubby. Miguel immeadiately refunded me the thousand pound.

Daie motors are taking the pi$$ and to be honest so are JDI, surely they should be responsible, since they are acting on your behalf...and they have recommended you a poor car. I know things don't work like this, but it should be JDI refunding you and then JDI recouping off Daie. It might be worth getting an independent SVA test aswell...being a drift car...you know the rest!

And as for Daie's comments...£6500 should be able to get you an absolute MINTER of a Rev 3. There were a couple of Rev 3/4 Turbo TBars going in the For Sale section right here on IMOC!!!

Oh and a "Boxster S" ... lovely cars!

Good Luck

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KrisB

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Post by KrisB »

Reading your post im feeling devastated for you i myself have just bought a rev 3 through the auctions and its exactly how it was described but with a few extra things on it and mileage is about the same mine has 34k on and was a canny bit less in price and i did it myself :shock: so they should be shot for being poor at their job really
de_niro69

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Post by de_niro69 »

[/quote]

Got a reply from Japan.... their view appears to be you either spend a lot more money and buy a dealer/stock car and get a guaranteed good car, or you buy a 'cheap' car (in their words) from auction and take your chances..

Funny.... I thought that's what they went to the auction for, to inspect the car :?[/quote]

jon,
when i went through the auctions the company that i used , had their own mehcanics present at the auctions, where they inspected the car and took ten extra photos before they advised me to bid,

so i think that it is Julians willy up, and if he is purchasing cars from the auctions on your behalf with out inspecting them, then something like this was waiting to happen!!!!!!!!!
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Post by jrleech »

The really annoying thing is, money isn't the issue. I'd happily (well, maybe not happily) paid an extra £2-£3k if I got a proper original mint car, with 1 careful owner, and a full service history.

Maybe I should have a holiday to Japan and find one myself....
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Re: Got my new Rev3 Turbo.... Steer clear of Daie Motors :(

Post by Birdy »

In summer 2003 I paid JDI £7,300 for a standard 1996 Rev 3 Turbo. 'Completely standard engine - unmodified performance'

What I got was a Rev 3 Turbo running with Rev 2 ECU, loom, ignitor & air-flow meter & intake plumbing. Ill-fitting incorrect electric-aerial, the high-level brake light and rear window heater wiring had also been completely removed.

Due to my lack of knowledge of the difference between the MR2 turbo engine revisions at the time (blindingly obvious now though!) I didn't become aware of the ECU/AFM issue until 5 months later. It was when I bought a Rev 3 Apexi induction kit and it didn't fit that the alarmbells rang. When I collected the car in the first place Julian briefly showed me the engine - he pointed to the dump-valve and told me it vents to atmosphere because the hose had been removed by the previous owner probably just for the sound and it doesn't make any difference. I found out that it was actually impossible for the dump-valve to be plumbed in as all of the intakes into the Revision 2 pipework were already in use! Hmmmmm, and surely someone with Julian's knowledge of MR2s should have spotted that this car shouldn't have had an airflow meter!?

When I contacted Julian about it (as soon as I discovered the problems) he said too much time had passed (5 months) since I bought it so he wouldn't do anything about it and when I argued my case with him he started effing and blinding and he hung up on me! He washed his hands of it completely, seemingly not bothered about his customer's dissatisfaction or the fact that his cars were seemingly not being inspected properly.

I asked the Citizen's Advice Bureau and they said I did have a case under the Trades Description Act as the car was not 'As Advertised' - Rather than the hassle of legal procedures though, I decided I just wanted to get it fixed. So I sourced the correct parts and had the car put back to proper Rev 3 spec at my own considerable expense.

This was all getting on for a couple of years ago now and my car has been great ever since I got it sorted out, no thanks to JDI though. One of my first modifications was to get rid of those JDI reg plates!

Birdy.
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Re: Got my new Rev3 Turbo.... Steer clear of Daie Motors :(

Post by tonigmr2 »

Whilst I've no difficulty with people reporting their *actual* experiences, I will remove 'I've heard X or Y' stories, or general comments on ANY company and their reputation. So please keep it along these lines guys.

I would just like to add that I've had three cars from Julian and he has always done his best for me as far as I am concerned.

Having said that my latest tubby is from NVI in Northampton - and tbh Jon £6.5K for a mint rev3 is too cheap. I am paying way over that for my (admittedly rare yellow GT) grade 4 car with 28K miles. I went with NVI as I have decided not to import cars any more - they are never quite what you expect (the odd thing you don't see on photos and jap tyres coming to mind) and it costs more in the end than buying something you can see in the UK. [edit - also went with NVI because they had exactly the car I've wanted for a couple of years it has to be said!]

All IMHO!

T
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Ohh mate, gutted for you!!
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Andy F wrote:Ohh mate, gutted for you!!
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THats my first wrist slap from Toni :mrgreen:
How many do i have to do before you put me over your knee? =P~ :eye:
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Re: Got my new Rev3 Turbo.... Steer clear of Daie Motors :(

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LOL Andy, whenever you like :wink:

Seriously guys, let's not get out the flaming torches as for one thing the situation is still ongoing and unresolved.

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Post by ross2 »

I think it would be for the best that people are informed of whats happened so they know to stay well clear.
I for one wont go there then after hearing this.
Its like the hearing horror stories of keighley car trade centre, experiences need to be passed on so people dont get fooked over again.
just my opinion of course. :wink:
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Re: Got my new Rev3 Turbo.... Steer clear of Daie Motors :(

Post by jrleech »

Julian has asked me to point out that the bodywork/paint is OK, and the car is mechanically sound (though only time will tell as there's no way to judge an engine/head gasket etc....).

Once the parts have arrived and after I've had a week off work to strip it down and rebuilt it, I should have a better idea of what is what.... really not looking forward to 40 hours on the concrete in this weather though.

Thanks for the support guys/gals....
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Post by Quigonjay »

does anyone know julian who can point him to this thread?
maybe he can clear 1 or 2 things up?
certainly seems like he should take the reigns with this case if he was employed to source the car for you
Rich j

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Post by Rich j »

i think when i was looking for my car i was nearly going to get one from him, Got talked out of importing it though without test driving it and being able to look at the car first hand.It must be gutting paying the extra for someone importing it for you as you thought you had peace of mind this way only to get a car thats not up to it. :(
de_niro69

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Post by de_niro69 »

should have gone to SPEC SAVERS
Birdy
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Post by Birdy »

Exactly, that was my thinking - to pay the extra for piece of mind that i'd get a really fine example as this company had a good reputation with fellow IMOCers.

As above though I will also say that my car's bodywork was good and the car was 'mechanically sound', the interior was also in good condition.

But when you pay the kind of money I did (which was way above the going rate for similar examples advertised through IMOC) for an MR2 'specialist' company to get a good example of a standard Rev 3 Turbo and I got some kind of Rev 3 / Rev 2 hybrid engine-wise, i'd say that that plainly wasn't good enough. That should've been spotted and rectified before it was handed over to me, before it left Japan even.

(Mine had the old Rev1/2 vent to atmosphere dump-valve hesitation symptom as well as inconsistent boosting - not to mention the fact that if left as was I wouldn't have been able to modify my car in the same way as other Rev 3 owners - £7,300 I paid for mine, then a lot more to get it put back to proper Rev 3 spec )

I know a lot of people vouch for the company above and it's fine for people to say when they've had a good experience but i'm affraid I didn't.

Best of luck Jon, I hope your car gets sorted out to your satisfaction, afterall that's why you paid the big bucks, you've paid over the going rate you deserve a lovely motor for that money.
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Post by michael »

quigonjay wrote:does anyone know julian who can point him to this thread?


My guess is that he's already here and already aware of the thread - he usually is ;)

*waves at Julian*
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Post by philz »

A similar thing happened to me when I bought my first MR2 turbo. I'd searched the UK for a mint Rev 3 turbo and couldn't find anything that was good enough so I decided to go to an import company (not the same one mentioned here) and explain what I wanted. I spent an hour on the phone to them emphasising that I only wanted a truely mint, immaculate, pristine car, nothing else would do and that I'd pay whatever it took to get such a car. A few weeks went by and they phoned me up as they'd found exactly what I wanted. I paid a deposit of £1000 and waited.

And waited, and waited, and waited.....................

Then almost 6 months after finding the car it eventually arrived, was converted etc. and I was able to go pick it up.

When I got there my heart sank, it was a total dog. There were 3 different shades of paint on it, a fist sized dent in the rear quarter, cigarette burns in the seats, overspray on the tyres from the badly refurbed alloys etc. If it was a dog then I'd have had it put down.

Luckily for me I was able to get my deposit back without any problems. It took me a further 5 months to eventually find my current car (yeah, ok I'm a fussy git!)
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