When my tubby is finished, how much will it be worth?

[Paul R]

http://www.youre.co.uk

Why? who cares if I make a spelling mistake! lol

Paul.

[michael]

http://www.youre.co.uk

Why? who cares if I make a spelling mistake! lol

It's a slow day, my pedantic b*stard hat has been dusted off.

[stevecordiner]

Oh,

And I already said that it has uprated turbo, suspension and pistons! lol..


Did you read my post?

Paul.

Yes I did read your post fella;

You have a GT4 ct20b with steel internals I assume - I bought one like this for 250 quid a year ago

You have JE pistons, these can be bought new for around 250 quid

So theres 500 quids worth of parts. But now you have forgies, which yes have more long term power potential but they will also be noisier on start up and usually also mean the car will use more oil than a stock engine. This is good that it attracts buyers who like mods but bad in that it will put off a lot of your more routine buyers - hence why standard cars always sell for more than modded! (unless its something special like the phoenix power car).

However as your market is the ones who like mods, you still have the AFM, still have small injectors, still have standard cams, have standard EMS and a turbo that will not take your pistons anywhere near their capability.

Yup, you've done your suspension - but my point about other mods and condition of stuff is if your suspension is immaculate, yes it'll be worth money - if they're nackered they wont be etc

Given I've seen rev 3's with 50k miles on going for 4500 quid and I've even seen a mate buy an immaculate, standard rev 3 GT T bar, one owner from importing in 1997 buy it for 3600 quid. I stand by my comment I recon 3k is a fair price.

[stevecordiner]

And you're saying if I put a pair of 250 quid cams in it then it will make it worth more??

Paul.

Well, not really. If your car had the supporting mods to use those pistons to their potential it would be worth more. But mods never recoup their cost, so if you sink another 5k into it, you'd probably have a car worth 6500.

[Kieron]

In the current climate, and going from Autotrader and ebay prices, I would say to the man in the street the car is worth anything from £1500 to £3000 tops.

If you sell it to an enthusiast who appreciates the extra parts then *maybe* you would get more.

The bottom's fallen out of early MR2's i'm afraid. It may be worth 5 grand to *you* but you'd never get that for it in the real world - unless it's an enthusiast purchase.....

[JJ]

Lol !! I rate my reasonably attractive coloured (Kev! ) Rev2 93 for about £2500 !

How I see it, its a ruddy 12 year old car at the end of the day ! And mines sporting the rev 3 running gear with 35k on in it with the biggest hybrid you can make of the CT-26 ( still crap !! ) My car is faultless apart from needing a brake pad change soon and front knock links ! - everything works !

Fair enough, if someone wants to give me 3-4k for mine, thats their parogative, but personally, I wouldn't shell that out for a 12 year old car.

Even sticking the beasty engine I'm building with one of the biggest turbos you can fit to an MR2 2.0 litre - costing a small fortune to build and setup I might add, but stick that into a 12 year old car and the value I'd only consider maybe an uplift of around £500.

Modifications do nothing to the value of the car !

[Paul R]

Oh,

And I already said that it has uprated turbo, suspension and pistons! lol..


Did you read my post?

Paul.

Yes I did read your post fella;

You have a GT4 ct20b with steel internals I assume - I bought one like this for 250 quid a year ago

You have JE pistons, these can be bought new for around 250 quid

So theres 500 quids worth of parts. But now you have forgies, which yes

I have an uprated CT20b, with stainless internals indeed....uprated not standard.

If you can get JE pistons for 250 quid, then show me where you get them from?? The cheapest I've seen is 335.

And for the record....injectors are on my list and so is an intercooler......

Paul.

[Paul R]

TBH The car including all the work/parts has only cost me 3k in total, so I'm not bothered if I only get 3k for it.....but I'd like 4k!

Paul.

[Kieron]

Well, for a 3 grand investment, you are going to have a fabulous car when it's finished.

I'd just enjoy it, and put valuations to the back of your mind. It's worth £6K in fun!

And if you ever come to sell it, then hit the enthusiasts who will appreciate the car, rather than come round your house in burberry caps saying "not bothered about mechanics mate, you got a bass tube in there or wot..?"

[lower]

i think the point is at the end of the day it is a rev1 full stop and has done 80k miles.

yes the engine has been rebuilt, and potentially can make more power than standard but it still has the early rev1 suspension geometry, and with the exception of the engine, the car has had 80k miles and 15 years worth of use.

modified cars are never worth the money you spend on them and in the alst 2 years the bottom has completly dropped out of the mr2 market. if you struggled to sell you rev3 a couple of years ago, and rev3's are what people really want, that gives you some idea of what a rev1 is now worth.

i think if you got 3k for your car you'd be doing well. 5k? in your dreams i'm afraid.

Sorry at the end of the day its a rev 1 that's got a once blown rebuilt engine in it, I'd value it around 3k I'm afraid. If it had other supporting mods like an ECU upgrade and or cams then that would be different - obviously tho the main consideration would be the condition of the body work, interior, suspension etc as well

[Paul R]

i think the point is at the end of the day it is a rev1 full stop and has done 80k miles.

yes the engine has been rebuilt, and potentially can make more power than standard but it still has the early rev1 suspension geometry, and with the exception of the engine, the car has had 80k miles and 15 years worth of use.

modified cars are never worth the money you spend on them and in the alst 2 years the bottom has completly dropped out of the mr2 market. if you struggled to sell you rev3 a couple of years ago, and rev3's are what people really want, that gives you some idea of what a rev1 is now worth.

i think if you got 3k for your car you'd be doing well. 5k? in your dreams i'm afraid.

Sorry at the end of the day its a rev 1 that's got a once blown rebuilt engine in it, I'd value it around 3k I'm afraid. If it had other supporting mods like an ECU upgrade and or cams then that would be different - obviously tho the main consideration would be the condition of the body work, interior, suspension etc as well

For a start it's got 65,000 miles! I didnt say I would want 5k for it, I said I would like 3-4k!

Paul.

[The Morris]

When looking for my car last year, my must have mods were
Black
Lowered + stiffened suspension
17" wheels
uprated exhaust
not stupid amount of miles.

I looked in auto trader, other magazines and e bay and i coiuldnt find one for less than £3500
The only ones were red had high milage and standard wheels. I think you are being harsh. You will definately get £3500+ for it.

[Kieron]

Take your pick....

http://search.ebay.co.uk/mr2_W0QQsoloct ... propertyZ3

http://search.ebay.co.uk/mr2_W0QQsoloct ... propertyZ3

http://search.ebay.co.uk/mr2_W0QQsoloct ... propertyZ3

[Paul R]

Take your pick....

http://search.ebay.co.uk/mr2_W0QQsoloct ... propertyZ3

http://search.ebay.co.uk/mr2_W0QQsoloct ... propertyZ3

http://search.ebay.co.uk/mr2_W0QQsoloct ... propertyZ3

And your point is? Most of those are N/A's, a lot of them havent met there reserve and you cant tell how much they are going for until the end of the auction...

Paul.

Paul.

[stevecordiner]

I have an uprated CT20b, with stainless internals indeed....uprated not standard.

If you can get JE pistons for 250 quid, then show me where you get them from?? The cheapest I've seen is 335.

And for the record....injectors are on my list and so is an intercooler......

Paul.

Best I've been offered from a chap I buy a load of parts from is $399 for forgies with rings and pins.

A ct series of any description cant support the power your pistons can be used for Paul.

I never said injectors and intercooler weren't on the list. You posted up asking, "what do you think my car will be worth?"

Its coming up to being a 15 year old rev 1, with rev 2 wheels, some basic performance upgrades, body kit and uprated suspension - I'd pay 3k.

By comparison, 18 months ago I imported my car. A 1992 rev 2, 50k miles, full body kit, alloys, Tein adjustables, HKS superdrager exhaust, blitz decat, electronic boost controller, various gauges, factory option recaro trim, uprated clutch and a uprated ECU - cost me 3,000-3,300. I'm not trying to insult you with my value, I'm just trying to explain that to me I would value it at 3k

[The Morris]

Its tough to guage prices on e bay as they me £1500 with 2 hours to go and then end up at £3500. All i know is that i never saw a black one go for less than £3000 unless it had a few problems and high milage. The problem with buying a standard one is that any respectable MR2 driver will want to lower it and put big wheels on which will set you back £1000. Thats before you start on the engine.

You find me a one that has sold for less than £3000 with bigger wheels, resonable milage and good condition and i will concede to you.

[Paul R]

Ok,

3k is your opinion!

I never said that the turbo would ever reach the power that the pistons could sustain. but they are there for good base to stick a bigger turbo with external wastegate in etc....

i think that in the summer, as always, the market will pick up anyway and there wont be that many mr2's for sale.

Paul.

[Kieron]

Phew....

Ok then....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 68917&rd=1
A '93 Turbo with NO bids at 2.5K with 5 hours to go....

Autotrader.co.uk lists 27 - yes 27 turbo's under £3.5K and a very nice selection too.

You're dreaming mate.....

[Paul R]

Phew....

Ok then....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 68917&rd=1
A '93 Turbo with NO bids at 2.5K with 5 hours to go....

Autotrader.co.uk lists 27 - yes 27 turbo's under £3.5K and a very nice selection too.

You're dreaming mate.....

That one looks like a UK car mate.

And I'm not dreaming....I'm asking a question....and reading the answers...lol

Paul.

[Kieron]

Dellusional then.

Ok, here's another, this dreamer wants 4800 for it, oh dear, the market bids it at 2.7

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 25516&rd=1