shouls i sell my rev3 turbo and buy a mk1 supercharged?

[Lauren]

It like going back out with your ex, you know how it goes and you know how it blows, but it still cannot compare with a newer younger model

The mk2 starting to look dated but a classic shape, the Mk1 belongs in a museum !

Choice is up to you .. I even had thoughts of importing in an AE86 Corolla ! But I remembered how much I hated driving that car due to lack of refinement... so it would so the mk2 would still have to stay, but the corolla for fun. But then, I already have that when i fix the rust on it !

I don't think the MK1 belongs in a museum! I also think that the MK1 is clearly defined as an 80s car because of its styling. Have you never thought that to many that this is a big plus point? It is also a classic car (the MK2 isn't) which is yet another plus point.

Though the MK1 is not refined by todays standards, its perfectly liveable with. If you want lots of refinement then buy a barge.

[craig]

It like going back out with your ex, you know how it goes and you know how it blows, but it still cannot compare with a newer younger model

The mk2 starting to look dated but a classic shape, the Mk1 belongs in a museum !

Choice is up to you .. I even had thoughts of importing in an AE86 Corolla ! But I remembered how much I hated driving that car due to lack of refinement... so it would so the mk2 would still have to stay, but the corolla for fun. But then, I already have that when i fix the rust on it !

I don't think the MK1 belongs in a museum! I also think that the MK1 is clearly defined as an 80s car because of its styling. Have you never thought that to many that this is a big plus point? It is also a classic car (the MK2 isn't) which is yet another plus point.

Though the MK1 is not refined by todays standards, its perfectly liveable with. If you want lots of refinement then buy a barge.

I knew this would happen....

Que the MK1 Vs MK2 debate

[CUERVO]

If you can get Mk1 and keep Mk2 as well. I've always wanted to do that!!! 1day will

[Lauren]

I knew this would happen....

Que the MK1 Vs MK2 debate

JJ started it, i can't let the little MK1 go undefended now can i?

[raptor95GTS]

If you can get Mk1 and keep Mk2 as well. I've always wanted to do that!!! 1day will

um the point is to buy a cheaper mr2 than I can get for the rev3 tubby but still have some serious power. It depends on how much I can get for the current car over what i would pay for the mk1 s/c.

[craig]

I knew this would happen....

Que the MK1 Vs MK2 debate

JJ started it, i can't let the little MK1 go undefended now can i?

Now now children!

[Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm]

i missed my MK1 a little bit but it disappears as soon as the foot goes down in the MKII!

the MKII is far more comfortable to drive as well and gives more warning when it's going to break away at the rear.

both cars are great but if i had to choose between them now it would be a tought call!

[MegatronUK]

whispers .... mk1 turbo, mk1 turbo, mk1 turbo

[pistol supercharged pete]

get an sc
if ytou are thinking of achange its time for a change
i had to choose between the mk1 sc and turbo
chose the sc and i am so glad i did
great cars
you wll love it
you know it makes sense

[Lauren]

i missed my MK1 a little bit but it disappears as soon as the foot goes down in the MKII!

the MKII is far more comfortable to drive as well and gives more warning when it's going to break away at the rear.

both cars are great but if i had to choose between them now it would be a tought call!

Its a barge thats why.. only joking.

Seriously though the MK1 is much more informative than MK2s i've tried when it comes to communicative handling.

[Leon.]

Just to add my 2 pennies worth.....

I'm obviously a shallow guy because I can only go on looks as I've never experienced the ride of a MkI.

I know the Mk I is indicative of the '80s but...... MkII is a babe, simply breathtaking

If it were a women, it would beat Caprice anyday!!

L

[Chris \'aka rustboy\' Amm]

i missed my MK1 a little bit but it disappears as soon as the foot goes down in the MKII!

the MKII is far more comfortable to drive as well and gives more warning when it's going to break away at the rear.

both cars are great but if i had to choose between them now it would be a tought call!

Its a barge thats why.. only joking.

Seriously though the MK1 is much more informative than MK2s i've tried when it comes to communicative handling.

maybe for you lauren but not for me, the mk 1 was like grip, grip grip grip grip break!

my mkII is more like grip grip grip grip twitch....bigger twitch then i stop after that
i think the MKII longer wheel base really helps and the handling once used to it is pretty good on the MKII, ok so not as roller skate like as the MK1 but it's only 5mph down on bends compared to my MK1 now i'm used to it and i can easily get 15-20mph or more quicker than the MK1 on the straights.

everyone seems to like one or the other on here, i myself like both but prefere the MK2 as a daily driver due to it having more space, more overtaking power and far less rust i.e no rust

[raptor95GTS]

whispers .... mk1 turbo, mk1 turbo, mk1 turbo

yeah man I hear those whispers all the time but I don't have the money to get a mk1 turbo made. Where in the UK am I going to get a fit and clean rust free mk1 that's fit and worth it to pay the for the rev3 turbo lump and gearbox etc plus the labour (say what £2k all in as a minimum guide)

[raptor95GTS]

, more overtaking power and far less rust i.e no rust

um the supercharged version aint going to be slow with the pulley conversion and the jap import should not have the salt induced rust either.

When it comes down to it if I can sell my rev3 turbo for say £5k and get a mk1 s/c for £3k then I'm 2 grand less in debt

I can then pay for the pulley conversion by the summer when the good weather is here ( he prays anyway) and in the real world it will just as quick as I can drive the turbo

If the difference in buying v selling is nothing like 2 grand then I might as well buy a train pass and save the mileage on the turbo until the better weather is here.

I like the shape of both cars and I like the toys in the mk2 but damn if I don't still really like the shape of the mk1. I'm snooked either way I reckon but 1 path might solve some debt issues

[Nelo]

Ditto on the buy a Mk1 too, something i'd like to do some day. Have the Mk1 as a daily driver NA screamer and then the Mk2 for trackdays, drag events whatever.

But this seems to be a decision motivated by finances rather than the brain or heart. Given your situation, i'd probably go for the Mk1 SC since you can always buy another Rev 3 turbo. But I suppose the new SVA laws would've made the Rev 3s a bit more expensive???

I dunno I don't live there thankfully!!

[JJ]

I knew this would happen....

Que the MK1 Vs MK2 debate

JJ started it, i can't let the little MK1 go undefended now can i?

I was just teasing !!! , just wanted to see if the mk1 owners still got all defensive !! And I am right !

If it were me, I'd own both, then I'd critisise them to my hearts content !!

Like :

1 is a rot box and looks like a 60's movie portraying the 1990's
The others too heavy for driveout the show room take it to a track day type of sports car without heavily investing in bigger tyres and suspension upgrades... the mk2 needed more lightweight materials so it wouldn't ridge the tarmac as you go hard into a corner.

Shall I touch on technology in the handling ??? Both Mk1/2's sport Mcphersons struts ?? honestly, yes it works but whilst the rest of the world like Hondas and Mazdas RX7 were fitting multilink / double wishbone setups, the basic suspension setup was ... eeermmm old in design - probably explain why the cars have such tyre ripping aggressive toe in compared to others.

[Nelo]

Shall I touch on technology in the handling ??? Both Mk1/2's sport Mcphersons struts ?? honestly, yes it works but whilst the rest of the world like Hondas and Mazdas RX7 were fitting multilink / double wishbone setups, the basic suspension setup was ... eeermmm old in design - probably explain why the cars have such tyre ripping aggressive toe in compared to others.

So true, i've just put a new set of tyres on my 91' Mazda 323 sh1tmobile and while changing the rears I was surprised to see that even the rear setup on that thing seems to be more sophisticated than the Mk2!!

[raptor95GTS]

Ditto on the buy a Mk1 too, something i'd like to do some day. Have the Mk1 as a daily driver NA screamer and then the Mk2 for trackdays, drag events whatever.

But this seems to be a decision motivated by finances rather than the brain or heart. Given your situation, i'd probably go for the Mk1 SC since you can always buy another Rev 3 turbo. But I suppose the new SVA laws would've made the Rev 3s a bit more expensive???

I dunno I don't live there thankfully!!

yeah the finances are there for sure but I can always store the turbo and use the train to get to work and save the miles. I still like the mk1 though and one with a s/c would be quick enough for now. Later on I can always do the turbo conversion for serious power

JJ,

trust me the thought of a rust bucket mk1 is why I'm considerin the import option as they should be rust free. For a couple of years at least

[Lauren]

Shall I touch on technology in the handling ??? Both Mk1/2's sport Mcphersons struts ?? honestly, yes it works but whilst the rest of the world like Hondas and Mazdas RX7 were fitting multilink / double wishbone setups, the basic suspension setup was ... eeermmm old in design - probably explain why the cars have such tyre ripping aggressive toe in compared to others.

I agree, McCrapson struts are pretty poor when compared to a double unequal length wishbone setup. But the excessive toe isn't really a result of this, its more due to the position of the rear track control arm. Next time you see an elise have a look at the rear suspenders and you'll see that the track control arm is in a similar position to the MR2. The elise has to run some 4mm of toe in too.

The issue is that as the suspension compresses the track control arm will rise from its horizontal position and cause the wheels to toe out, which is why there is a lot of static toe-in.

McCrapson struts are used because they are cheap and dead easy to fit. They also introduce a lot of unsprung weight to the suspension too as well as having shocking camber control which is another reason why going too oversize on the wheels messes up the handling so much.

I think the MK1 is actually best on stock tyres as the car moves around a lot and this is the fun of it really...

[Lauren]

Just to add my 2 pennies worth.....

I'm obviously a shallow guy because I can only go on looks as I've never experienced the ride of a MkI.

I know the Mk I is indicative of the '80s but...... MkII is a babe, simply breathtaking

If it were a women, it would beat Caprice anyday!!

L

I would honestly recommend that you drive a MK1, then you'll understand where its appeal lies.