shouls i sell my rev3 turbo and buy a mk1 supercharged?

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keep the turbo and modify when funds avaliable or sell and get a mk1 s/c

Poll ended at Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:48 pm

keep the turbo
29
39%
keep the turbo
29
39%
buy the s/c
17
23%
 
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shouls i sell my rev3 turbo and buy a mk1 supercharged?

Post by raptor95GTS »

i miss my old mk1 although it had almost rusted right through and I love the turbo power / brakes but I miss the shape of the mk1

so my question is should I sell the turbo and import a mk1 supercharged from japan with its unsalted roads so i get the shape of the mk1 but with the (almost) power of the turbo.

Time for a poll methinks :D
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get a mk1 and put a turbo engine in it! :D
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Indeed :-D
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but with the (almost) power of the turbo


no comparison,a mk1 sc is nowhere near as quick as a tubby.....and when you put said tubby engine into the mk1 it turns it into a monster,best of both worlds thinking,except you get best of both worlds and then some.....0-60 in under 5 while retaining the mk1 handling.

I really should get a big drum with mk1 turbo printed on it for me to bang!
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MK1 turbo! grab MK1 take said MR2 turbo then drop both off to mr Paul 'frankenstein' woods and pick up beast within a couple of months with cash to hand to the evil doc :twisted:
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Paul Woods wrote:
but with the (almost) power of the turbo


no comparison,a mk1 sc is nowhere near as quick as a tubby.....and when you put said tubby engine into the mk1 it turns it into a monster,best of both worlds thinking,except you get best of both worlds and then some.....0-60 in under 5 while retaining the mk1 handling.

I really should get a big drum with mk1 turbo printed on it for me to bang!


true stock v stock the turbo is quicker but add a pulley conversion and its going to be real close between the s/c and the turbo.

If the s/c engine breaks > turbo lump goes in :twisted:
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Paul Woods wrote:
but with the (almost) power of the turbo


no comparison,a mk1 sc is nowhere near as quick as a tubby.....and when you put said tubby engine into the mk1 it turns it into a monster,best of both worlds thinking,except you get best of both worlds and then some.....0-60 in under 5 while retaining the mk1 handling.

I really should get a big drum with mk1 turbo printed on it for me to bang!


Paul does the conversion effect the handling of the mk1 in any way i.e other than when you plant the right foot would you notice there being a larger engine in there.
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You say you like the power of the turbo and looks of the MK1, Go for the MK1 Turbo as suggested on here!!! Total street sleeper!
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Patrick Gray wrote:
Paul does the conversion effect the handling of the mk1 in any way i.e other than when you plant the right foot would you notice there being a larger engine in there.


Well, Paul reccomended I fit mk2 rear suspension (just won a set of mint condition bilsteins on ebay) and turbo anti roll bar when I drop the turbo motor in... I'm also going to fit some adjustable koni inserts and progressive front springs. Along with polybushes I'd expect it to handle brilliantly!
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If you can find a nice unmolested SC from japland and import it over, it'll be a really nice car to run around in.

Took the covers off Mark's SC Super Edition today just to give the interior a clean and it does look nice with all the recaro interior and stuff. Would be nice to get a good one like that imported over.

I honestly think (remember i've had probably the quickest SC in the UK) that with a big pulley on it it really is plenty fast enough for the road. In fact i've gone back to an NA as i found my SC was just too easy to go way too quickly on the public road.

I have no doubt that Paul's car with a tubby engine would be bonkers, but really is it not a bit too much for the road? I know for sure that i wouldn't keep my licence very long if i was driving something like that.

I also think that the SC doesn't quite have the handling balance of the NA so a tubby engine (guessing its a bit heavier) isn't going to help that.

All in all it depends whats highest on your list of priorities. If you want a MK1 with a bit more punch then buy an SC stick a fensport pulley on it and the jobs done. It will give reliably good performance for years. I am sure a well installed tubby engine could be just as reliable of course, but its considerably less hassle to buy an SC.
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that's a shame the s/c car isn't as sweet handling as the n/a though I had a c plater and they were better???

I reckon I could get a clean s/c from japan fro about 3K so depending how much I could get for my current 95 tubby would enable me to pay off some serious debt AND buy some sensible mods AND I'd still have a darned quick car

oo decisions decisions
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allan welsh wrote:I reckon I could get a clean s/c from japan fro about 3K


Ok - how do you work that out?
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allan welsh wrote:that's a shame the s/c car isn't as sweet handling as the n/a though I had a c plater and they were better???

I reckon I could get a clean s/c from japan fro about 3K so depending how much I could get for my current 95 tubby would enable me to pay off some serious debt AND buy some sensible mods AND I'd still have a darned quick car

oo decisions decisions


Well they aren't quite as sweet handling, the early cars were the sweetest of all handling wise (this is why i bought one). But in saying that they are still pretty good. My old SC went pretty well and it really did handle, its just slightly different thats all.

My honest opinion would be that if you want a car that will be a lot of fun and is easily quick enough for any road work and good enough fun for the odd trackday, then a MK1 SC will fit that bill quite nicely. All you need is the big pulley and decent suspension. Most of the SCs that come over seem to have aftermarket suspension, though i've yet to drive one that is as good as a koni setup.

I had a lot of fun in mine, particularly so on all the trackdays i did in it. I was toying with losing the SC and putting a turbo on it, i even bought a manifold, but after thinking about it for a while i reckon that 180bhp gave me a nicely balanced car and IMO it didn't really need more power. I think that the trouble is you can go on the tuning/power thing for ever as you always get used to it after a while no matter how much power you have. I guess after 3 years i just fancied going back to the NA as after racing one, i realised i could have just as much fun, but the chances of keeping my licence should be better.
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waynestoyotamr2 wrote:
allan welsh wrote:I reckon I could get a clean s/c from japan fro about 3K


Ok - how do you work that out?


Didn't you get one for less than that?
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I reckon keep the turbo :D

Don't get me wrong, I like the SC's but if ya got a rev 3 turbo, why change? :P



End of the day tho mate, up to you :wink:
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I've voted for the SC.

Reason being that since you miss your old one and your considering going MK1 again then you should go for it. If you dont you will always regret/have that feeling for having one. It'll tear you up man. When I sold my rev 1 tubby I really missed it. I didnt really have much of a choice though.

Not sure how much you'll miss the extra speed/power of a MK2 though. MK1's may feel pretty fast being so small.

I missed my tubby so much I'd get all emotional when I saw another tubby driving around. So 6 months after selling up I went and got a rev 3.

It's up to you though man. Rev 3's are pretty good. All depends on how much you miss the MK1. The only car I could get and not miss the 2 in would be a Supra. It seems the natural next step, Plus my dads owned them for years, so it kind of runs in the family.

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It like going back out with your ex, you know how it goes and you know how it blows, but it still cannot compare with a newer younger model :D

The mk2 starting to look dated but a classic shape, the Mk1 belongs in a museum ! :D

Choice is up to you .. I even had thoughts of importing in an AE86 Corolla ! :shock: But I remembered how much I hated driving that car due to lack of refinement... so it would so the mk2 would still have to stay, but the corolla for fun. But then, I already have that :) when i fix the rust on it ! :lol:
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i know its a crazy choice / thought but I do like the shape of the mk1 :shock: , the driving position the feel of the car as you lob it round corners. It just felt sorted except for a lack of grunt overtaking other traffic.

Thing is I'm a bit skint and if I can get a s/c imported for about 3kish, still to be confirmed that can happen, I can sell the rev3 and with the difference pay off most if not all my debt and still have a quick car.

Argh help :cry:
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JJ wrote:The mk2 starting to look dated but a classic shape,



I wouldn't say dated. Known not to be current? I dont think it'd look dated for a while yet. It doesn't look like these boxy/edgy cars that are coming out but, sports cars generally look nice and smooth sorta like the 2 :D
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ENSMR2 wrote:
JJ wrote:The mk2 starting to look dated but a classic shape,



I wouldn't say dated. Known not to be current? I dont think it'd look dated for a while yet. It doesn't look like these boxy/edgy cars that are coming out but, sports cars generally look nice and smooth sorta like the 2 :D


It might not look overly dated but it is reasonably far enough removed to be obvious that it isn't bang up to date.

Some sports cars are really smoothly styled, some are not, its really dependent on what is in fashion styling wise at any given time.
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