testing lambda sensor

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testing lambda sensor

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Found this but I'm unsure if I'm doing it right because I get nothing when following the test, I've got a digital test meter too instead of a analogue one. Also it says to bridge e1 and te1, whilst the meter is connected(i think) to vf1 and e1 ( I get 0.04volts between vf1 and e1)

I'm either doing it wrong or my o2 sensor is duff...

Any other ways of testing if it's done?

MkII O2 Sensor Diagnosis

From: Dave Inskeep ([email protected])
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:43:42 -0400
Subject: Re: MR2 O2 Sensor Diagnosis

Here's the procedure from the 91 Toyota manual. I'm adapting a flowchart
that had some redundant steps, so I hope this doesn't get too confusing. My
own comments are in []. If anyone else on the list has the Toyota manual,
please check this to see if I misread something.

A1. Connect the positive probe of an analog (needle type) voltmeter to
terminal VF1 of the check connector, and the negative probe to terminal E1.

A2. Warm up O2 sensor with the engine at 2500 rpm for ~120 seconds.

A3. Connect terminals E1 and TE1 of the check connector. Maintain engine
speed at 2500 rpm.

A4. Check the number of times the needle fluctuates in 10 seconds:
a. If 8 times or more, normal.
b. If less than 8 times, verify that O2 sensor and engine have been warm
for at least 120 seconds and the engine speed is held at 2500 rpm. Repeat
step A4.
c. If zero times, goto step B1.
d. If greater than zero or less than 8 times, go to step A5.
e. If zero after replacing the O2 sensor once already, replace the ECU.

A5. Disconnect terminals TE1 and E1 of the check connector, maintain 2500 rpm.

A6. Measure the voltage between terminals VF1 and E1:
a. More than 0 volts, replace the O2 sensor & repeat from A1.
b. If 0 volts, goto to step A7.

A7. Check the diagnostic codes:
a. Normal code nos. 21, 25, and 26: goto step A8.
b. Malfunction codes - any other than 21, 25, 26, repair the code.

A8. Disconnect the PCV hose.

A9. Measure the voltage between terminals VF1 and E1.
a. 0 volts, replace the O2 sensor & repeat from A1.
b. More than 0 volts, repair (over rich). [I'm not sure what they mean to
repair - this is straight from the book. Perhaps they mean just repair
whatever is causing the over-rich condition?]

B1. Check the diagnostic codes:
a. Normal code nos. 21, 25, and 26: goto step B2.
b. Malfunction codes - any other than 21, 25, 26, repair the code.

B2. Disconnect terminals TE1 and E1 of the check connector, maintain 2500 rpm.

B3. Measure the voltage between terminals VF1 and E1:
a. If 0 volts, goto to step A8.
b. If 5 volts, proceed to step B4.
c. [If in between 0 and 5 volts, not sure what to do. I guess it's an
either/or thing, I haven't done this part myself.]

B4. Disconnect the water temp sensor connector and connect resistor with a
resistance of 4-8 kOhms or another coded [?] water temp sensor.

B5. Connect terminals TE1 and E1 of the check connector.

B6. Warm up the O2 sensor with the engine at 2500 rpm for approx 120
seconds, maintain 2500 rpm.

B7. Measure voltage between terminals VF1 and E1.
a. If 0 volts, replace the O2 sensor & repeat from A1.
b. If 5 volts, repair (over lean).

Good Luck,
Dave Inskeep
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Re: testing lambda sensor

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Right tested it again with e1 + t1 connected and the meter on vf1 + e1 and got 5volts

Tried disconnecting the lambda and it hasn't thrown any codes and it still gave me 5 volts.

Why wouldn't it throw any codes?

I still don't get any rev fluctuations at 2500rpm, I'm getting 5v at tick over and 0.04 with any acceleration at all.
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Re: testing lambda sensor

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I think following the flowchart I should be disconnecting the pcv hose and checking voltage again. I'm going to test the plug end see if there is any resistance, just find it weird it didn't throw any codes when I disconnected the o2 sensor plug
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Re: testing lambda sensor

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Disconnected the pcv, it's just the same, 5v at tick over and 0.04v at 2500rpm

Getting a small reading at the connector for the lambda at ecu side but no resistance at all for the lambda it's self nothing.

Still hasn't thrown a code for me disconnecting the lambda and I've had the car started with it disconnected

I think I need a new o2 sensor?

How much volts should be coming from the ecu to the lambda?
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Re: testing lambda sensor

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I've just realised that it's the needle on the analogue meter fluctuations I should be counting, I thought it meant the rev counter doh ](*,)
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Re: testing lambda sensor

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Ok so I got an analogue tester, and I've got 5v at tick over, but if I touch the accelerator it drops to 0, no fluctuations!
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Re: testing lambda sensor

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Did this end up being a faulty Lambda sensor or what happened out of interest?
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Re: testing lambda sensor

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You're probably long gone from this issue but if you happen to see this thread again maybe you could post up if you ever mnaged to get the analogue meter needle to fluctuate. I'm having trouble trying to do this test too and from what I've read/searched I don't think any single member on these forums has been able to replicate that Toyota test procedure and produce the results of the needle fluctuating. :?
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