Please help me!

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slipping clutch
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Re: Please help me!

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Bumble-bee wrote:
slipping clutch wrote:if you have iridium tippec plugs they are ruined now, swap them out for some copper core items from spark plugs . co .uk and try the car again iridium plugs do not like getting flooded one bit. sorry if you have already tried tnis -i cant fead your full post at the moment


Ok I shall try this thank you man :) put if it's still starting that does mean the spark plugs are fine right?

not necessarily no - i had a set that displayed the same symptoms as yours after i had kept running the car at idle in the garage . not saying this will solve your issue but it sounds spookily like the symptoms i had from running iridiums.
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slipping clutch wrote:
Bumble-bee wrote:
slipping clutch wrote:if you have iridium tippec plugs they are ruined now, swap them out for some copper core items from spark plugs . co .uk and try the car again iridium plugs do not like getting flooded one bit. sorry if you have already tried tnis -i cant fead your full post at the moment


Ok I shall try this thank you man :) put if it's still starting that does mean the spark plugs are fine right?

not necessarily no - i had a set that displayed the same symptoms as yours after i had kept running the car at idle in the garage . not saying this will solve your issue but it sounds spookily like the symptoms i had from running iridiums.


But I just had a full service carried out on the car and these were changed and the oil was drained a lot with the rocker tightened and yet it still has the same problem :(
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My fresh new engine came back with 4x new plugs.

Massive starting issues not running on all 4. Turns out 2 brand new plugs were duds from factory. It can happen
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Bumble-bee
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Re: Please help me!

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gerbil1028 wrote:My fresh new engine came back with 4x new plugs.

Massive starting issues not running on all 4. Turns out 2 brand new plugs were duds from factory. It can happen


Once she's started she is running on all 4 though :/
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How fresh are you ignition compoents.

Rotor
Dizzy
Leads
Amplifyier
Coil .

Next any fault codes.

And a thought if struggling and stinking of fuel maybe green ECU temp sensor failing/failed so constantly overfueling thinkibg engine cold ??
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Get garage to do emissions test nice and cheap and rules out dead O2 sensor lambda
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If early rev1-2 dodgy afm could cause mix and startingbussues
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gerbil1028 wrote:How fresh are you ignition compoents.

Rotor
Dizzy
Leads
Amplifyier
Coil .

Next any fault codes.

And a thought if struggling and stinking of fuel maybe green ECU temp sensor failing/failed so constantly overfueling thinkibg engine cold ??


Rotor dizzy and leads are all brand new! She's starting first time at the moment but as she cranks if I gove her some throttle she's fires up instantly..... If that helps with working it out if I don't use the throttle first off she just cranks and cranks and takes ages to start even with the throttle down
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Personally would

1. Error code paperclip check for fault codes

2. Get a £10 emmission test done to rule out 02

3. Unbolt and inspect coil for cracks damage and water ingress

4. Cry

5. Throw a pi$$y
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And as a rev2 would also be looking towards AFM, remove and make sure flap free moving
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If it's starting with throttle then your overfueling at startup as the throttle is introducing more air which means your ignition system is probably ok

It should start and run with a dead o2 sensor as until warm it will be running open loop without the o2. As said check the afm and the ecu temp sensor, you need to get yourself a multimeter and get your hands dirty the basic checks take less than an hour
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gerbil1028 wrote:Personally would

1. Error code paperclip check for fault codes

2. Get a £10 emmission test done to rule out 02

3. Unbolt and inspect coil for cracks damage and water ingress

4. Cry

5. Throw a pi$$y


6. Phone Peter gidden get all worked up on the phone to him then he explains what the problem is and how to fix it.
Bumble-bee
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Re: Please help me!

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The coil is fine... Haven't looked at the AFM so might have to do that and I don't even know what a O2 sensor is :') but when she starts and I give her a little she's fine from then on! To check the AFM do I just remove it and see if it's got cracks or anything?
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With the afm removed look inside it you'll see a metal flap push it open and make sure it fully closes freely. There's also some resistance checks you can do with a multimeter but you'd have to refer to the big green book for details
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Re: Please help me!

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Draven wrote:
gerbil1028 wrote:Personally would

1. Error code paperclip check for fault codes

2. Get a £10 emmission test done to rule out 02

3. Unbolt and inspect coil for cracks damage and water ingress

4. Cry

5. Throw a pi$$y


6. Phone Peter gidden get all worked up on the phone to him then he explains what the problem is and how to fix it.



So true lol
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Bumble-bee
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Re: Please help me!

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thomp1983 wrote:With the afm removed look inside it you'll see a metal flap push it open and make sure it fully closes freely. There's also some resistance checks you can do with a multimeter but you'd have to refer to the big green book for details


Alright and the AFM is found just by my come right? Sorry I'm new to this stuff :') and I don't have one of them or the green book lol
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The big green book is available online. Google mr2 afm and look in your engine bay for that part it's in the passenger side near the airbox
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Check that the green air temp sensor in the air filter housing has been re-connected after your air filter change, just a thought.
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