mr2 turbo rev 3+ vs s2000

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Re: mr2 turbo rev 3+ vs s2000

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There is one big failing of the S2000 - the cabin is too darn small! At 6'4" and long in body rather than legs, I don't really fit in the car. My head pushes against the softtop and, because the steering wheel doesn't adjust, I can't see half of that pretty tachometer because the wheel is in the way #-o

I hear things about lowering the seats or replacing them with bucket seats... would need to try it out before I bought though :oops:
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Damn you fingers99 I wanted to try my nob dog again.
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WilkieGT wrote:From my experience, power wise, in a straight line my rev 3 tubby hands down out powers my friends AP2 S2000. His car is completely stock and mine at the time had a Fujitsubo Legalis R exhaust with the cat still in place, other than that was completely stock.

Handling wise I have no idea, they will obviously handle very differently but which is better I couldn't say however my gut says the s2000 will be more drivable on the limit due to its fmr layout and fairly linear power delivery.

Sitting in the passenger side of my friends s2000 was also my first VTEC experience and although the F20C sounds phenomenal and is an amazing piece of engineering, it failed to excite me in the same way as the 3SGTE does, but I suspect it may be different were I in the drivers seat :-k

Overall though they are lovely cars and would jump at the chance to try one out.


Thanks this is a good quote... who cares really if a s2000 is mid or not they totally different like any other cars both r good and bad.

The s2000 drives nice easy control n predictable but felt slow and boring gearbox was good tho... compared to my mr2 turbo. both were modified same mods...

Mr2 wins massively on mod gains i got it up to 313bhp.... my friend couldnt get more then 263bhp unless he turbo it but that wouldnt be cheap 15k + and everything else would need doing so it wouldnt be a s2000 anymore.
All his modded civic n dc5 friends were beating him...so i told him to sell that piece crap and get a evo so he did... lol n so did i too...
But i keeped mr2 and modded it more to 500bhp now im just scare of it...
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This has kept me entertained at work :clap:

My only encounter with an S2000 was when one was trying to keep up with me round a few corners when I had my Civic EG, he failed and did a 180 and bashed into a kerb.... was quite a funny thing to see in the mirror, Flying up me ass trying to prove he was quicker but then came to a small corner and flopped

Admittedly probably a driver error but my MR2 handles better than my civic did and is nicer to drive!
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I miss my EG, only had it three months before some old fart pulled off his drive without looking straight in front of me writing my car off :evil:
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I know! I had a few of them such fun cars to drive and parts are cheap. Another thing is I miss the community, there seem to be so many Honda clubs / meets but not so much with Toyota
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Mine was a B16a VTi, Quaife LSD, exhaust and induction.

Really hauled for a 1.6 and with the diff was great in the bends.
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Yeah I had the B16a in an ESI model, Unfortunatly didn't have an LSD which would have really helped, still handled great though! :lol:
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Yep, good little chassis :)
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jimGTS wrote:
QUOC2008 wrote:
I m sure if we had the trd version with 500bhp and wider revised suspension we wouldnt complain.





trd's wern't rolled off the production line.
a small few may of had the kit fitted when brand new, but the majority are just owners who went to trd to have the kit fitted. (be it rev1s or rev5s).
if they wanted engine upgrades, they got them.
this is why every trd is different.
there is no "stock" mr2 with a trd kit and 500hp out of the toyota factory.


the only claimed "500hp" car anyone remembers had a ct20b! (so obviously nowhere close to 500hp).



regarding this layout business, i wouldnt mind a drive in an s2000.



:thumleft: :thumleft:


yeah but the fq400 evo are the same as the trd mr2 turbos... and are classed as standard with optional upgrades from mitsubishi.

so what do you think?
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Surely this is a wind up??
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QUOC2008 wrote:

yeah but the fq400 evo are the same as the trd mr2 turbos... and are classed as standard with optional upgrades from mitsubishi.

so what do you think?


I think that the 4G63T is a better engine than the 3sgte due to seeing a tonne more of development due to being used in rallying a lot longer than the 3sgte was and on the road till like 2008.

And someone bought that supposed 500bhp trd car here a while ago and it was no way 500bhp.
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bri0905 wrote:Surely this is a wind up??


Has to be. Or someone is forgetting the GT 4 Celica (with 3SGTE family engine).

By that logic, the Lampredi twin cam has to be the greatest engine of all time (instead of just one serious contender).
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Fk knows what's going on
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Turbo > V6 any day of the week, no argument =;
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ashley wrote:Turbo > V6 any day of the week, no argument =;

That's fighting talk :)

Coming to Blyton next weekend ?
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Marf wrote:Mine was a B16a VTi, Quaife LSD, exhaust and induction.

Really hauled for a 1.6 and with the diff was great in the bends.


Before I got my old tubby I had a EM1 VTI (b16a) great car.. Wish I got it in the hatchback though as my friends EK4 VTI was ever so slightly quicker !

I'm sure the EG6 VTI is quicker than the EK4 VTI

Had the car from 56k to 90k gave it to my dad and it stands currently on 160k but he doesn't ever take the car above 3000 rpm
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gavsdavs wrote:
ashley wrote:Turbo > V6 any day of the week, no argument =;

That's fighting talk :)

Coming to Blyton next weekend ?


I wish...my car's in a thousand pieces just now though :lol:
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Re: mr2 turbo rev 3+ vs s2000

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Race Idiot wrote:
QUOC2008 wrote:

yeah but the fq400 evo are the same as the trd mr2 turbos... and are classed as standard with optional upgrades from mitsubishi.

so what do you think?


I think that the 4G63T is a better engine than the 3sgte due to seeing a tonne more of development due to being used in rallying a lot longer than the 3sgte was and on the road till like 2008.

And someone bought that supposed 500bhp trd car here a while ago and it was no way 500bhp.



Its in wikipidia and there some videos of it on youtube 498bhp trd version mr2 only in japan, i dont think it was running on the ct20 turbo...lol
In my books its considered standard or you can say the evo fq400, skyline r34 nur spec, henssey vernom which is a lotus really, etc is not standard sure it has been taken to their ralliart, nismo etc department for mods...
All car come out the factory basic then get upgraded to whatever...
The 3sgte is a sick engine for its time they even put it into falken supra to race in the le mans it was running 500bhp.
4G63T is a evo engine and yes that i do agree is much better but the 3sgte was still in production until 2007 on the caldina it has been around longer
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