how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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im considering having a full respray on the car. the paintwork is quite tatty and i think it'd make the car look a million times better for the summer months coming up \:D/

so how much could i be looking at for a decent job?

the car is black and it will be resprayed black also, so hoping that will keep the costs down a bit?

cheers,
Jonny
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

Post by craig »

Best to keep the exterior the same colour as original, then there is no mismatch between exterior and engine bay/frunk etc.

For a decent respray job, you're looking at about £2000-£2500.
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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yeah thats why i wanted it the same colour. i want everything matching.

i was expecting that much :) best start getting some moneys together then!
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

Post by RazzyRascal »

I'm keen on a respray too. I was quoted around £1600 for a spray in a similar colour or £2k+ for a total colour change. That was an independent near to me.

For that I could get a well sorted NA or an entry level turbo though.

Does anybody know how much could be saved if the majority of the 'rubbing down' and prep work was done yourself?

There are guys on here who have done some themselves at home and it looked impressive, possibly something to consider if you have a garage you could temporarily convert into a spray room.
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Respray

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How many layers has an onion?
Door handle gaskets if they don't separate cleanly, front windscreen surround, halfway rubbing strips!! £75 each for just the doors, window weather strips optional but again £75 each, rear 1/4 window resealing kit £40 per side (Toyota), not the most straightforward car to repaint. Allow £1,500 £2,500 £3,500.
Debadge? Weld up aerial hole? mods? glass out?
Good luck with the quotes……..
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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Lol . Looks like huge bill for respray .
Local guy for refresh my Mr 2 ( same colour carrabian blue) 600 quid .
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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You get what you pay for... most places worth paying will charge upwards of £40 an hour for labour.. for £600 you'll get a car scotched down, masked up and blown over if you're lucky (unlucky?) that's it. The overspray will be free of charge but the door shuts, engine bay, spare wheel well etc definitely won't be touched. You can't compare that with a proper respray where the materials alone will be more than £600
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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Price will also depend on whether they are taking the car back to bare metal before the respray.

Cheap jobs wont be a bare metal respray and any hidden corrosion about to bubble through the existing paintwork will bubble through the new paint work quicker than you would like.

For cars this age, assume you will need new metal for at least the sills and rear arches as they rot from the inside out.
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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Not going to be getting much for a £600 job.
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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oh yeah . Thats right . But if dont change colour and U need just refresh , not need spray hidden place right ? Otherwise U pay 2k+ .
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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My car had been re sprayed badly in it's previous life. I didn't realise quite how bad until I had it up on some ramps a few months back. There was obvious 'drip' patterns lower down the bumpers. Also where the paint has flaked from stonechips there's an almost fresh looking original paint layer below. Clearly a cheap job.

From a distance it polishes up well but get up close it's not good. Also, as mentioned above there is bubbling starting to show.

My advice would be avoid a touch up of this kind. Maybe someone can do a gentle rub down and a re-laquer to bring the existing paint of your car back better?

In response to cosmos, I understand gaskets and seals will need replacing, that's a given for a 24 year old car. I was more interested in the money saved on labour disassembling the parts and rubbing down, which is surely the most time consuming part of a spray job when done properly :thumleft:
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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SID wrote:oh yeah . Thats right . But if dont change colour and U need just refresh , not need spray hidden place right ? Otherwise U pay 2k+ .


Respray is not just to make the car look nice.

The paint layers are also protecting the metal from rotting. The older the paint the less protection it gives.
For cars this age it is just a matter of time before the sills and rear arches bubble in a non-hidden place so may as well get them done properly once or you will be paying to do it twice.
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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Given the costs associated with this kind of project, and the 'readily available' amount of decent shells you can get its almost false economy to strip down your own car, prepare it all, respray it and put it back together.

You'd be far far better off both in time and financial costs to get a decent empty shell, repair that where needed) and then whatever colour you fancy, porting over the bits from your car. leaving you with a shell you can sell to someone planning the same project or scrap the shell when your all done.
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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People often consider doing the prep themselves then only paying for the painting.

It's a false economy though really, as the prep is the most important part - as with anything - and if you fcük up the prepping, it's hardly likely the paint shop will be happy to put their name to it when it comes out poorly, or they simply won't paint it at all.
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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painting is well over priced, i can understand the big bodyshops with huge overheads, but the self employed guys charging a fortune is nonsense, it should be 1k max for a refresh....the guy who is painting my car is taking £700 quid, I've seen his work and it's outstanding, he did a metallic silver legacy for a friend (a refresh in the same colour as original) and you couldn't tell it was resprayed, :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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sheppy wrote:painting is well over priced, i can understand the big bodyshops with huge overheads, but the self employed guys charging a fortune is nonsense, it should be 1k max for a refresh....the guy who is painting my car is taking £700 quid, I've seen his work and it's outstanding, he did a metallic silver legacy for a friend (a refresh in the same colour as original) and you couldn't tell it was resprayed, :shock: :shock: :shock:


overpriced based on what exactly?

any professional worth emppoying will be charging £50 an hour labour.. youre talking two full days MINIMUM for prep and paint on a straightforward blow over with no major dents or any rust repairs so thats 14 hours labour @ £50/hr = 700 then theres probably £200 worth of paint and consumables depending on the colour and size of the car so realistically if youre paying £700 for a blow over then either the guy is working for pennies or he's cutting corners and using the cheapest paints and consumables

when you get into a proper respray.. I.e removing glass, lights, bumpers etc etc the cost spirals

there'll always be someone willing to do something slightly worse for slightly less money.. doesn't mean that people doing it properly are conmen.

you CAN get a "resale" tart up for 4-500 but thats going to be a quick scotch down, mask most of the bits the paint shouldn't be on and one quick coat of paint, the standard "taxi" respray, some people would be happy with that, I certainly wouldn't.
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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over priced based on "the self employed guys charging a fortune" as i stated. having done my own respray it cost nowhere near £200 for paint and stuff (it it was top quality paint from ARK, the local paint place, and as for labour, it took nowhere near 30 hours, it also included a good few coats and extra drying time because we had to mask off the roof as the car was going 2 tone.

admittedly we didn't remove lights or glass (purely because we didn't have the correct tooling to remove and replace glass) but i'm sure it'd only take another few hours, the car was finished in 2 days, or 20 hours(ish) and we are by far professionals, i'm sure a pro with somehwere to bake the car could have done it in much less time.


EDIT: thinking about it, it took much less time for prep as it was one of the straightest Mr2s i've ever seen/owned, not a single spot of rust and no dents or dings at all.
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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I see your point.. but just because someone is self employed or a small business doesn't mean they should work for free. Out of what they charge you they'll have to pay rent, rates, cover their holiday/sick downtime etc.. bodyshops are no more a "rip off" than any other business... I've never seen a rich car painter or mechanic, and I used to be one.. the money is terrible.

Its a get what you pay for kind of thing.. for reference I paid £300 to get my toms kit painted.. not fitted, just painted.. thats the going rate.

like you said, a simple blow over took you (im assuming you weren't alone as you said "we") 20 hours.. so 40 man hours if there were two of you? Assuming a pro working alome works 3 times as fast thats still nearly £700 in labour alone.

granted painting and bodywork isn't nuclear reactor physics (also a boring subject, FYI) it's still a time served profession that deserves a fair wage, inline with other skills like plumbing, electricians etc.... try to find a plumber that will work for less than £50 an hour!!!
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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False economy? Tell me where I could find a shell in good enough condition and the in the perfect, finished colour I'd need? Not forgetting it's a car that's minimum 14 years old and realistically over 20! Furthermore the time and complex labour involved in completely mechanically and cosmetically swapping over a shell is rediculous. Assuming most peoples current shells are straight and just want respraying why would you want to? I'd pay to paint it any day but more likely just take my time and have a stab at it myself.
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Re: how much could i expect to pay for a respray?

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Rob85 wrote:. try to find a plumber that will work for less than £50 an hour!!!


£50/h ? Maybe in central London . C'mon .

Person who spray my Fordie charge my 700 for all , I know wasnt full strip - just refresh colour + side skirt and 4 doors change colour . Believe me was good job !

I dont know what sort of money ppl charge down south but here ppl have max 20 quid /h . So even 3 days per 8h = 480 plus paint 250 = 730 to 750 .
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