Rev 3 tubby belts

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Chris Lynch
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Rev 3 tubby belts

Post by Chris Lynch »

Don't ask me how but the alternator belt shredded off yesterday. I got recovered home by the RAC as they did not know what sort of belt it was.

Could someone post some part numbers or belt lengths cheers :D

Also I assume the other belt is for the aircon/power steering. I can see how to change the alteernator belt but cannot see a tensioner on the other one. Any tips or advice would be great as I need to get it fixed for Trax

Cheers

Chris
DaMonsta

Re: Rev 3 tubby belts

Post by DaMonsta »

Hi:

I don't know part numbers or belt lengths offhand. The other belt is for the aircon and the power-steering pump is electrically driven and is situated in the front boot.

The tensioner for the alternator is a long threaded bolt that attaches to a bracket on the top fastener. The tensioner for the aircon is the little wheel at the top of the belt. You slacken the bolt in the centre of the tensioner wheel (don't take it out just slacken it a couple of turns) then unscrew the bolt just behind the wheel on the holding bracket. You'll see the bolt as it is on the same vertical centre as the tensioner wheel. Then, as you slacken this bolt, you will see the tensioner wheel move downwards as you turn, thus slackening the belt.

Then you can remove the aircon belt (note the direction so you can replace it the same way around).

Loosen the two fixings for the alternator and slacken the tensioner right off. Fit new alternator belt and refit aircon belt and retension. When you are retensioning the aircon belt, tighten the tensioner-wheel centre bolt so it's just meeting the wheel, in other words no slack between bolt and wheel. Because if you have slack then you set the belt to the right tension, but the wheel will be at a slight angle. So when you come to tighten the centre nut it will tighten the tension even more and could overtension the belt. So you don't want the wheel flopping about when you are tensioning the belt.

Similar thing goes for the alternator. Make sure both the top and bottom fasteners are done right up when you are tensioning the belt. But not tight, obviously, as the alternator wont move. Then, when it's tensioned, you just nip up the bolts.

Regards,
Jim
podge1

Re: Rev 3 tubby belts

Post by podge1 »

hi sorry to hijack, but my alternator belt is so slack, when i put my lights on, the battery drains straight away, im going to try and tighten it up my self in the morning.
so, i can see the long threaded bold you mentioned, all i have to do, is loosen the retaining bolt a few turns, and then tighten the one on the end of the bracket? iv noticed theres another bolt just underneath this one. sall i just leave this one alone?

many thanks for the advice, im a bit of a dum dum, but like to give it go befire i pay a garage to do it! :oops:
DaMonsta

Re: Rev 3 tubby belts

Post by DaMonsta »

Hi:

I would suggest that if your battery is draining straight away and your alternator belt is not squealing then you could have a battery problem. But, then again, if your alternator belt is really slack then it will not squeal. It just simply will not transmit the rotary movement of the crank pulley to alternator pulley. It'll just be flapping around like nobody's business and, at some stage, it will disintegrate for various reasons that are difficult to put into words.

To retension the alternator belt you need to slacken the top and bottom mounting bolts of the alternator. Then, adjust the top tensioner.

To check, if you remove the right-hand rear wheel and see the belt, and you can move the lower run of the belt at the middle by over a centimeter then it needs tightening. If you can move it up and down by about a centimetre (without going into all the specifics laid down by Toyota) that's "about" right. If it still squeals at this tension then the belt or the alternator is f*cked.

Regards,
Jim
podge1

Re: Rev 3 tubby belts

Post by podge1 »

thanks for quick reply! i had a new belt on 3 month ago, and it was squeeling a bit then, the squeeling got worse, and then it must have got so slack, it doesnt even squeel now..,

so il loosen both top and bottom bolts, then keep turning top one, until the belt is a bit tighter, then tighten everything back up.? is this right? sorry for being a pain!
Chris Lynch
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Re: Rev 3 tubby belts

Post by Chris Lynch »

Thanks for the replys, I will get the can on the ramp today and have a look, not sure anywhere will be open that sells belts. Just need to get a part number as I bet Toyota charge a fortune.

Chris
DaMonsta

Re: Rev 3 tubby belts

Post by DaMonsta »

Hi podge1:

You'll find it easier if you remove the right-hand rear wheel first and put that corner on an axle stand.

Then you loosen the top and bottom alternator mounting bolts. Don't take them out just slacken them them off a turn. Now, go to the tensioner and release the locknut and begin tensioning the belt. You need to tighten the belt to a particular spec using a belt-tension gauge.

However, from experience, if you can move the middle of the bottom section of the belt up and down using just a moderate effort by about 1cm, then the belt is kinda right. Then tighten the alternator mounting bolts. Now take up the tiny amount of slack that will appear on the tensioner bolt and tighten the tensioner bolt locknut. Then put the wheel back on.

Regards,
Jim
Ian Geary
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Re: Rev 3 tubby belts

Post by Ian Geary »

part number 16361A, or have a look here

http://www.ayrpark.plus.com/epc/toyota/ ... 01_19.html

Have a look at this link http://www.ayrpark.plus.com/epc/mr2epc.html


an absolute must have in the favourites for rev3 and on tubbie owners. Can't remember who posted it up originally, but it's been a godsend to me when rebuilding my engine.

Ian
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Re: Rev 3 tubby belts

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nice finds Ian =D> =D>
podge1

Re: Rev 3 tubby belts

Post by podge1 »

thankyou damonster, spot on, its mint, when you dont have to pay some one to do it, and it was easy!
thanks again.
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